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Climbs

73 recorded climbs.

This timeline is missing some first ascents where the date of the ascent is unknown.
Year Climb Grade Climber Style Date
1948 Angular Crack VS Joe Brown Lead | onsight 1948
First ascent.
1949
1950 Elder Crack E2 Joe Brown Lead | onsight 1950
First ascent.
1951 Left Eliminate E1 Joe Brown Lead | onsight 1951
First ascent.
Peapod HVS Joe Brown Lead | onsight 1951
First ascent.
The Great Crack E3 Joe Brown Lead | onsight 1951
First ascent.
1952
1953
1954
1955 Maupassant HVS Don Whillans Lead | onsight 1955
First ascent.
1956
First ascent.

With some tension (hence the name?)

First ascent.

Dave Cook:

The story goes that the 1957 guide­ book credited Brown with the ascent before he had even considered the route. Anxious that the guide should contain no misleading information, he led it to put the record straight. [1]

References

[1] Mountain 26 (1973), page 30 /library/9630/mountain-26

1958 Insanity E2 Hugh Banner Lead 1958
First ascent.
1959
1960
1961
1962
1963
1964
1965
1966
1967
1968
1969
1970
First ascent.

Allen's first new route on Curbar

1972 Soyuz E2 John Allen Lead 1972
First ascent.
1973 Lifeseeker 6C John Allen Boulder | worked 1973
First ascent.
First ascent. 2 points of aid.

With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. Keith Myhill wrote in a letter to Mountain Magazine:

This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time.

To which Drummond replied:

…Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And Quietus top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey.

Though in a later interview he repented:

I erred and was willing to err. If you are creating something, to a degree you have a right to define the way in which to create and I was willing to chip holds… I was different, in that I was wilful and was prepared to change the rock to suit me because I was at the cutting edge and had a right to blunt it a little. I was wrong.

References

[1] https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940

[2] Mountain 28 (1973), page 15 /library/9632/mountain-28

[3] Mountain 31 (1974), page 39 /library/11050/mountain-31

Mister Softee E1 John Allen Lead 1973
First ascent.
Fidget 6C John Allen Boulder | worked 1973
First ascent.
1974
First ascent.

With only one nut runner

First ascent. With Steve Bancroft.

Climbed by a teenage Allen during an intensely productive period after his parents had moved to New Zealand.

Did you lose interest?

I didn't really lose interest but I burnt out a bit. I was really intense about it. It was a traumatic time for me developing as a teenager into the warm wonderful human being that I am now. My parents had left and I was on my own and I wanted to see them again. I'd chosen climbing instead of my family and it went a bit empty on me after a while. I'd done a lot of the routes I'd dreamt of doing, like Prophet of Doom [sic]. I remember distinctly on that particular route feeling nothing when I reached the top. I live a lot on my feelings and generally it went a bit dead on me. [2]

References

[1] Crags Issue 1, page 2

[2] https://www.flickr.com/photos/30814373@N02/50743982482/

1976 Predator E2 John Allen Lead 1976
First ascent.
Moon Walk E4 John Allen Lead 1976
First ascent.
Linden E6 Mick Fowler Lead | worked 1976
First ascent.
Incestuous E2 John Allen Lead 1976
First ascent.
Vain E3 John Allen Lead 1976
First ascent.
Deadbay Groove Direct E3 John Allen Lead 1976
First ascent.
1977 Hurricane E5 Mick Fowler Lead 1977
First ascent.
1978
1979
First ascent.

With a side runner in The Peapod

First ascent.

A very hard piece of climbing for the time.

Rigid Digit E5 Ron Fawcett Lead 1980
First ascent.
First ascent.

First ascent without side runner

First ascent.

With a high side runner in Avalanche Wall

First ascent.

With side runners.

1982
First ascent.

With a preplaced wire with long sling, having taken several ground falls whilst attempting to ground-up the route.

1984 Committed E6 Johnny Dawes Solo | worked 1984
First ascent.
Forbidden Planet E5 John Allen Lead 1984
First ascent.
Ulysses or Bust E5 Neil Foster Solo | worked 3rd Apr 1984
First ascent.
First ascent.

After repeated falls from the crux at 7m

First ascent.

References

[1] Mountain Issue 104, page 11 /library/11125/mountain-104

First ascent.

approx date

First ascent.

References

[1] Mountain Issue 104, page 11 /library/11125/mountain-104

First ascent.

approx date

First ascent.
1986 Art of Japan 6C John Allen Boulder | worked 1986
First ascent.
Gorilla Warfare 7A Martin Veale Boulder | worked 1986
First ascent.
Slab and Crack E8 Johnny Dawes Lead | worked 1986
First ascent.
Soul Searching E1 John Allen Lead 1986
First ascent.
Homeward Bound E5 Peter Beal Lead | worked 16th May 1986
First ascent.
Walls Have Ears E2 John Allen Lead 17th Jun 1986
First ascent.
Pockets and Pebbles 7A John Allen Boulder | worked 17th Jul 1986
First ascent.
First ascent.

Johnny initially graded it E7 7a because he thought the groove looked like two 7s.

References

[1] https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=391050

First ascent. Belayed by Nick Dixon.

Johnny attempted the route ground up in 1984 taking two sketchy falls from high on the route – saved from injury by one of his two belayers jumping off a small cliff below the route to take in slack. After a restorative beer, he set off for another go.

In 1986, sensing that someone else might do it first, he top roped the line before leading it on a sweaty late summer evening.

1987 Moon Madness E7 Ron Fawcett Lead | worked 1987
First ascent.
First ascent.

E5 7a!

First ascent.

Climbed in mistake for Pockets and Pebbles, up the left side of the face using undercut pockets.

First ascent.

A sudden attack of new route paranoia whilst driving to The Roaches compelled me to turn around, head for Curbar and pluck up the courage for this line I'd inspected some 12 years ago! I was convinced Fawcett was going to do it at any moment

Portrait of a Legend E4 John Allen Lead 24th Apr 1987
First ascent. With Johnny Dawes.
1988 Lardmaster E3 John Allen Lead | worked 15th Feb 1988
First ascent.
First ascent. 5 sessions. Pre-placed gear.

Pollitt had a ‘mare on the first ascent when his foot slipped on some lichen on the exit ramps, far above the peg. He rated it as harder and bolder than his South Stack routes. [1]

Climbed from the right with a pre-placed peg. The peg was seated within the slot using the butt of a hammer, which proved controversial, as did the extensive top rope practice. Pollitt repeated the route four times for photos.

References

[1] ‘Peak Rock’, Vertebrate Publishing, 2013.

[2] https://www.facebook.com/climbing.in.the.80s/photos/a.270388289694020/3416013038464847

1989
1990
1991
1992
1993
First ascent.

First climbed by Robin Barker in 1994, the direct start up the arete had been obvious for some time, and was even mentioned in the last guidebook. Robin named the route Slackers and graded it top-end E6 6b. Since then a couple of repeats occured, Neil Bentley fell off it and persuaded Robin to grade it E7, and Sam Whittaker beta-flashed it in 1998, where-upon the route gained the dubious honour of featuring on the front cover of On The Edge magazine.

Now the floodgates have opened, and the route has seen at least another four ascents by April 1999. The grade will probably settle out now at E6 6b. But it's the route that counts not the grade, afterall!

References

[1] https://mail.oocities.org/yosemite/4755/climbing/slackers/index.html

First ascent.

References

[1] ‘Peak Rock’, Vertebrate Publishing, 2013

1996
1997
1998 Stretch Armstrong E6 Seb Grieve Lead | worked 1998
First ascent.
First ascent. 7 sessions.

"The Zone" is a term used in Sports Psychology to describe a rarely-achieved heightened state of awareness experienced by some athletes during major events. This sensation is often accompanied by an extraordinary level of personal performance.

References

[1] http://www.thefreeclimber.com/articles/tfcDiaryZone.htm

First ascent.

Without side runners.

Eclipse E6 Pete Robins Lead | worked 1999
First ascent. With John Allen.
Crack and Slab E7 John Arran Lead | worked 1999
First ascent.
White Noise F.M. 6A+ John Allen Solo 16th Mar 1999
First ascent. With Pete Robins.
The Vegas Years E1 John Allen Lead 17th Mar 1999
First ascent. With Pete Robins.
2000
First ascent.

The H[9 grade] was an attempt to grade the difficulty of the headpoint experience rather than guessing at what an onsight would feel like. Aid-climbers don't guess at free grades so why should headpointers guess at onsight grades? The gear and moves of Dr. Dolittle (note one 'o') are so unobvious that a true onsight would be much harder than for other comparably-physical and comparably protectable routes. [1]

The route required some advance shoe tactics:

When I was working Dr Dolittle I could only do the crux in a pair of band new prototype Boreals 3 1/2 sizes below street shoe size and even then with a couple of old credit cards fitted as extra insole support. I needed a karabiner through the heel loop to get them on or risk tweaking tendons by pulling too hard on a single finger. [2]

References

[1] Westlake, D. (2010). Froggatt to Black Rocks.

[2] https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/gear/when_do_you_know_if_your_rock_shoes_are_too_small-518555?v=1#x7002988

2002
2003 Drummond Base E8 Johnny Dawes Lead | worked 23rd Oct 2003
First ascent.
The Grey Area E8 Charlie Woodburn Lead | worked 15th Dec 2003
First ascent.
First ascent.

Steve used 3 ropes on the first ascent. This turned out to be a very wise choice in light o Michele Caminati'a horrendous fall while repeating the line for photos.

References

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDTAKVUE_g4

2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010 Superhands E7 Dominic Lee Lead | worked 30th Sep 2010
First ascent.
2011
2012
First ascent.
2014
2015
2016 Salix E7 Pete Whittaker Lead | worked 2016
First ascent.
2017
2018
2019
2020
First ascent.
2022
2023
First ascent.
Climb Grade # Recorded Ascents Ascents Recorded Between
Smiling Buttress 8B+ 4 3rd November 2013 – 26th April 2026
Work Hard 8A+ 3 1st January 1995 – 1st January 2000
Walk On By 7C+ 6 1st January 1980 – 5th February 2017
Ben's Wall 7C 2 1st January 1987 – 1st January 2000
Pockets and Pebbles 7A 1 17th July 1986
Gorilla Warfare 7A 1 1st January 1986 – 1st January 1987
Art of Japan 6C 1 1st January 1986 – 1st January 1987
Fidget 6C 1 1st January 1973 – 1st January 1974
Lifeseeker 6C 1 1st January 1973 – 1st January 1974
White Noise F.M. 6A+ 1 16th March 1999
Veale Thing 5+ 1
Climb Grade # Recorded Ascents Ascents Recorded Between
Doctor Dolittle E10 1 1st January 2001 – 1st January 2002
The Zone E9 14 1st January 1998 – 17th March 2026
End of the Affair E8 29 1st January 1975 – 1st January 2026
Knockin' on Heaven's Door E8 17 2nd March 1988 – 1st December 2013
Slab and Crack E8 8 1st January 1986 – 13th November 2010
Frowned Upon E8 5 15th December 2021 – 25th November 2024
Elder Statesman E8 4 2nd March 2004 – 27th March 2017
Drummond Base E8 2 23rd October 2003
The Grey Area E8 2 15th December 2003 – 22nd December 2003
Born Slippy E8 0
Zone Out E8 1 19th January 2024
Happy Hart E8 1 1st January 1987 – 1st January 1988
White Lines E7 8 1st January 1985 – 25th February 2012
Janus E7 7 27th July 1986 – 29th October 2023
Moon Madness E7 4 1st January 1987 – 1st January 2003
Cool Moon E7 3 1st January 1981 – 1st January 2003
Superhands E7 1 30th September 2010
Crack and Slab E7 1 1st January 1999 – 1st January 2000
Salix E7 1 1st January 2016 – 1st January 2017
Linden E6 5 1st January 1973 – 1st January 1984
Slackers E6 3 1st January 1994 – 1st January 1999
Committed E6 2 1st January 1984 – 1st January 1986
One Step Beyond Direct E6 2 10th December 1983 – 1st January 1985
The Shape of Things to Come E6 2 1st January 1980 – 1st January 1990
Eclipse E6 1 1st January 1999 – 1st January 2000
Stretch Armstrong E6 1 1st January 1998 – 1st January 1999
White Water E6 1 15th April 1984
One Step Beyond E6 1 2nd March 1980
The Fall E6 1 17th April 1987
Moon Crack E5 3 1st January 1975 – 1st January 1977
Ulysses or Bust E5 3 3rd April 1984
Rigid Digit E5 2 1st January 1980 – 1st January 2010
Appointment With Fear E5 1 1st January 1985 – 1st January 1986
Homeward Bound E5 1 16th May 1986
El Vino Collapso E5 1 1st January 1985 – 1st January 1986
Hurricane E5 1 1st January 1977 – 1st January 1978
Forbidden Planet E5 1 1st January 1984 – 1st January 1985
Moon Walk E4 3 1st January 1976 – 1st January 1977
Profit of Doom E4 2 1st January 1975 – 1st January 1978
Portrait of a Legend E4 1 24th April 1987
The Great Crack E3 2 1st January 1951 – 1st January 1952
Vain E3 1 1st January 1976 – 1st January 1977
Deadbay Groove Direct E3 1 1st January 1976 – 1st January 1977
Lardmaster E3 1 15th February 1988
Husk E3 1 1st January 1985 – 1st January 1992
Elder Crack E2 2 1st January 1950 – 1st January 1951
Insanity E2 1 1st January 1958 – 1st January 1959
Soyuz E2 1 1st January 1972 – 1st January 1973
Incestuous E2 1 1st January 1976 – 1st January 1977
Predator E2 1 1st January 1976 – 1st January 1977
Walls Have Ears E2 1 17th June 1986
Zoot Route E2 1 1st January 1985 – 1st January 1992
Left Eliminate E1 1 1st January 1951 – 1st January 1952
L'Horla E1 1 1st January 1957 – 1st January 1958
Mister Softee E1 1 1st January 1973 – 1st January 1974
Soul Searching E1 1 1st January 1986 – 1st January 1987
The Vegas Years E1 1 17th March 1999
Peapod HVS 2 1st January 1951 – 1st January 1952
Green Crack HVS 1 1st January 1957 – 1st January 1958
Maupassant HVS 1 1st January 1955 – 1st January 1956
Angular Crack VS 1 1st January 1948 – 1st January 1949
Thin VS 1 1st November 1971 – 1st December 1971