Progress | 8c+ Sport route at Kilnsey

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Bolted by Paul Ingham.

Ted Kingsnorth on hold deterioration:

Regarding holds changing, there are 2 key holds that have altered a bit since the FA in 95. Firstly the crux sidepull/ pod between the second and third bolt for your left hand has got smaller due to it crumbling. Apparently it used to be significantly bigger. Secondly the slopey pod for your right hand used to have more of a lip on it in the 90's and this broke off making this bit harder. Its the redpoint crux now - this broke agin majorly last summer but was repaired back to its former state as the piece that broke was retained and put back exactly how it used to be.

Thirdly, there were some holds between the 6th and 7th bolt that broke about 8 or 9 years ago [2015/16] but a repair was done to a key crimp so this section is about the same as what it used to be (the old holds can be seen in the Chris Savage video or the Malc pics).

I understand that this year [2024] the jug by the kneebar rest higher up has crumbled plus some other sika has decayed (not sure where) but I don't have any knowledge of this as haven't been up there to look. [1]

On balance it is not possible to know whether the route has gotten noticeably harder since the first ascent because no one has tried the route in it's previous state vs. it's current state to know if the difficulty has changed.

References

[1] https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,33869.msg697741.html#msg697741

Contributors
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24 contributions since 20th December 2023.

Pics + Vids

Jerry Moffatt
Added at 17:08 on 14 August 2024
Jerry Moffatt
Added at 17:08 on 14 August 2024
Malcolm Smith
Added at 09:08 on 13 August 2024
Malcolm Smith
Added at 09:08 on 13 August 2024
Malcolm Smith
Added at 09:08 on 13 August 2024
Chris Savage
Added at 17:01 on 26 January 2021
Luke Dawson
Added at 18:04 on 11 April 2021
Eder Lomba
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Added at 05:06 on 16 June 2021
Ted Kingsnorth
Added at 06:07 on 06 July 2021
Ted Kingsnorth
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Added at 07:10 on 01 October 2021
Ted Kingsnorth
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Added at 10:06 on 30 June 2021
Pete Dawson
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Added at 07:07 on 14 July 2021

Ascents

16 recorded ascents, including 1 unsuccessful ascent.

Climber Style Ascent Date Suggested Grade
Jerry Moffatt Lead | worked 1995 8c
First ascent. 4 sessions. Harder than Liquid Ambar.

Jerry nearly made the first ascent in 2 days but fell off the top roof due to not knowing the sequence well enough. Jerry initially suggested 8c+ but revised this to 8c after Nic Sellars made a fast repeat of Jerry's route Evolution at Raven Tor and downgraded it to 8c:

The only grade I got wrong [in 1995] was Progress at Kilnsey. When I first worked the route I thought definitely not 8c+. I spoke to three others who had all been on the route who all thought it probably 8c+. In the end I gave it 8c+ thinking that perhaps I was climbing better than I thought. The bummer was that I was originally right about the 8c grade and wrong to think I was climbing so great. [2]

References

[1] https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,33869.msg697764.html#msg697764

[2] On The Edge Issue 53, page 48.

Malcolm Smith Lead | worked 1995
Nic Sellars Lead | worked 1995
Steve McClure Lead | worked Jun 2006
Chris Savage Lead | worked 19th Jun 2011
Tim Palmer Lead | worked Aug 2014
Alex Barrows Lead | worked 21st Jun 2015
Alex Megos Lead | worked Jun 2016
Second go.
Jon Freeman Lead | worked 18th Jun 2016
Jordan Buys Lead | worked Apr 2019
Luke Dawson Lead | worked 20th Jun 2020
Josh Ibbertson Lead | worked 2021
Eder Lomba Lead | worked 1st Jun 2021
Ted Kingsnorth Lead | worked 29th Jun 2021
Pete Dawson Lead | worked Jul 2021
Tony Mitchell Lead | did not finish

Tony had been attempting the line prior to the first ascent but was shut down by a long move through the roof, which he managed to reach twice from the ground but was unable to pass.