Knockin' on Heaven's Door, Curbar Edge

E9 Trad climb

The route was first climbed on the 2nd of March 1988 by Andy Pollit and graded E9. The pre-clipped 'hand-held' peg used on the first ascent was later discovered to have actually been placed with a 'hand-held' hammer. src

The grade of a given ascent depends quite a bit on the particular gear used.


Andy Pollitt
Andy Pollitt
Richie Patterson
Ben Tetler
James Pearson
Dan Honeyman
Dan Honeyman


10 recorded ascents.

Climber Style FA Ascent Date
Andy Pollitt Lead (Worked) 02 Mar 1988

Climbed from the right with a pre-placed peg.

Richie Patterson Lead (Worked) 19 Oct 1996

A variation on Pollitt's line which allowed some better gear to be placed. Claimed as a new route 'Born Slippy' E8. Later ascents have tended to climb Pollitt's line but have used an unobvious traverse to place the born slippy gear.

Ben Tetler Solo (Worked) 11 Nov 1998

Tetler suggested E9 for his solo ascent.

James Pearson Lead (Worked) 01 Jan 2003 (approx)

Aly Robertson Lead (Worked) 24 Jan 2009

Aly placed the peg on lead. He took a few falls and generally thought the gear was pretty good!

Neil Kershaw Lead (Worked) 01 Oct 2010 (approx)

Just to clarify, as the situation with this route is not cut and dried as with most routes. We started up Knockin', made a short traverse left to the bomber gear in a hole just beneath the lip (which Born Slippy climbs a variant start to reach, not really required), then came back along the traverse and finished as per usual, hand-placing a peg on the way (on lead). I believe Alex Honnold headpointed the route a similar way although without the hand-placed pegs and reckoned E8 6c. Both myself and Ryan think that is about right. You could argue that should the hand-placed peg hold then its more like E7 6c, but its far from a certainty and its probably sensible to assume it will rip, hence the back-up plan of the Born Slippy gear, which would almost certainly prevent a groundfall with a decent belay.

Ryan Pasquill Lead (Flash) 22 Oct 2010

I was a lot more scared than on both End of the Affair and Gaia. I'd say it's definitely worth E8. Placing the pegs for the first time on lead wasn't ideal. I placed them slightly to the left of where they should have been. I didn't trust them at all.

Katy Whittaker Lead (Worked) 01 Nov 2013 (approx)

Dan Honeyman Lead (Worked)

Ron Fawcett Lead (Worked)

Second ascent? Ron climbed the route in a similar style to the FA and thought it was worth about E7.