Dreamtime (pre break) | 8B+ Boulder problem


See also Dreamtime.
This is currently unclimbable. Typically this is because the climb existed in some state but then changed significantly (e.g. by losing holds) and is now considered a different climb.

The first proposed 8C, it was later downgraded to 8B+ when Dave Graham found a heel hook. There were also suggestions of hold improvement. Around November 2009 the crux pinch broke off making the problem harder. Dreamtime is now considered 8C again.

References

[1] https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/climbing/dreamtime-a-dream-which-vanished-for-a-second-only.html

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Fontainebleau

8B+ 8B+ (hard) 8B+/8C 8C (soft) 8C No vote
6 - - - 3 7

Ascents

16 successful ascents recorded.

Climber Style Ascent Date Suggested Grade
First ascent.
Second ascent.

it was a very warm april day. in the morning I visited my grandmothers birthday party & then drove down to ticino with @steini_kristalle 🔥🔥 despite the 25degrees I had my best try late in the afternoon 🍀 but it was done for the saison & we cleaned the Boulder. I gave it up. When it was dark, steini convinced me to give it another try. a last try...so we walked back to dreamtime. After sitting in the dark for some time we turned on the light. I topped it out on my first try 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 once again big thank mr. @steini_kristalle for this amazing day🙏 I would not have done it that day...without you 😘 [2]

References

[1] https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2001/05/hardest_boulder_problem_repeated_in_the_dark-54

[2] https://www.instagram.com/p/CrAtOejMyK1/

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc1INq0UPZI

[4] On The Edge issue 110, page 15

Third ascent.
Fourth ascent.
Fifth ascent. 9 sessions.
Thomas Willenberg Boulder | worked 9th Apr 2003 8C
Sixth ascent.
Dai Koyamada Boulder | worked 9th Nov 2004 8B+
Tyler Landman Boulder | worked 23rd Nov 2006 8B+
1 session.

In 4 hours!