Liquid Ambar | 8c+ Sport route at Lower Pen Trwyn

United Kingdom / Wales / Conwy Principal Area / Llandudno

Originally given 8c but upgraded following repeats. Jerry Moffatt named the route in memory of his brother, who loved Liquidambar trees.

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Ascents

5 successful ascents and 3 unsuccessful attempts recorded.

Climber Style Ascent Date Suggested Grade
First ascent.

After a significant siege over three years. Jerry was close in the second year but injured himself on a rest-day motorcycle track day which put a halt to climbing for the rest of the year. [5]

References

[1] Mountain Issue 134 (1990), page 13 /library/11317/mountain-134

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkj3Buhfi2k&t=3224s

[3] https://www.facebook.com/climbing.in.the.80s/photos/a.270388289694020/641168632615982

[4] https://www.facebook.com/climbing.in.the.80s/photos/a.270388289694020/402010799865101

[5] https://open.spotify.com/episode/2tzJOCa4oJwGTKjZulutLw

Ben Moon Lead | worked 1991
Second ascent. 5 sessions.

Tried but was perhaps hampered by lack of transport and the distance from Sheffield

4 sessions.

In the context of his other claims there is doubt around this ascent, however his belayer Dan Tounley has been contacted (by Chris Doyle) and has confirmed the ascent:

Yes, I can confirm Rich done these routes [Liquid Ambar, Hubble] as I belayed him. Makes me laugh that people are doubting him. I tried to log on to U.K Climbing website when I read about the story but unfortunatly my schools sever wouldn't let me (I am in Thailand). Maybe people will stop doubting him now! Maybe he upset someone, I know he can be an arrogant little twat sometimes!!! [1]

Simon Lee has separately been in touch with Dan to confirm the ascent.

Guidebook author Pete Harrison was less convinced:

I've got an extensive collection of emails from reputable people detailing Simpon's various lies - I got involved with trying to clear up his Liquid Ambar claim while producing the NW guide and, as usual, felt like digging deeper once it was obvious he was a serial walter mitty. I've still got Simpson's emails asking me to abide by certain conditions before he'd name his LA belayer. And I've got the email Shark received from Dan Townley in which Dan confirms he belayed Simpson on ascents of LA and Hubble (both times 'early in the morning, no-one else at the crag'. Doesn't match the third-hand account of the people at Parisellas Cave the day Simpson appeared and claimed to have sent LA). Simpson's so dubious and troubled that even having a belayer confirm his ascents isn't credible enough! [3]

References

[1] https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16602.msg292046.html#msg292046

[2] Interview in On The Edge Issue 140, August/September 2004, Page 12

[3] https://ukbouldering.com/threads/the-rich-simpson-nostalgia-revisionism-thread.27176/page-2

Third ascent?

See interview in [1].

References

[1] The Power of Climbing (1991) by David Jones, page 145

References

[1] Neil tried the route but struggled with the moves lower down so decided to invest his time in Big Bang instead.