Just so it's on the record, I emailed John to ask about his ascent.
[remus] Someone mentioned that you made the second ascent of Careless Torque around the mid-nineties, is that the case? I don't suppose you remember the year?
[John Dunne] 1989
It might be mentioned in the 89 Stanage guide too…? I don’t have a copy any more though.
That would have been his first and only 8A on record I think, previous hardest being 7Cs on the back of the calf. Good effort.