| Date | Time | User | Type | Name | Attribute | ||
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| 21 | 20th December 2023 | 17:22:46 | remus | ascent | John Roberts | notes | |
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Before
> The ballnut placement looked very scarred and possibly damaged in comparison to the week before when I had previously top-roped the route but on the assumption that it was now “bomber” I jumped on and then kicked the gear out as I moved past the crux. [2]
### References
[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387](https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387)
[2] [https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/](https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/)
After
> The ballnut placement looked very scarred and possibly damaged in comparison to the week before when I had previously top-roped the route but on the assumption that it was now “bomber” I jumped on and then kicked the gear out as I moved past the crux. [2]
### References
[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387](https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387)
[2] [https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/](https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/)
[3] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/ukc/the_promise_-_ground_up-332252?v=1#x4901091](https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/ukc/the_promise_-_ground_up-332252?v=1#x4901091)
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| 22 | 20th December 2023 | 17:22:46 | remus | ascent | John Roberts | notes_pretty | |
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Before
<blockquote>
<p>The ballnut placement looked very scarred and possibly damaged in comparison to the week before when I had previously top-roped the route but on the assumption that it was now “bomber” I jumped on and then kicked the gear out as I moved past the crux. [2]</p>
</blockquote>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387">https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/">https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/</a></p>
After
<blockquote>
<p>The ballnut placement looked very scarred and possibly damaged in comparison to the week before when I had previously top-roped the route but on the assumption that it was now “bomber” I jumped on and then kicked the gear out as I moved past the crux. [2]</p>
</blockquote>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387">https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/">https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/</a></p>
<p>[3] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/ukc/the_promise_-_ground_up-332252?v=1#x4901091">https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/ukc/the_promise_-_ground_up-332252?v=1#x4901091</a></p>
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| 23 | 20th December 2023 | 17:22:06 | remus | ascent | John Roberts | notes_pretty | |
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Before
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387">https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/">https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/</a></p>
After
<blockquote>
<p>The ballnut placement looked very scarred and possibly damaged in comparison to the week before when I had previously top-roped the route but on the assumption that it was now “bomber” I jumped on and then kicked the gear out as I moved past the crux. [2]</p>
</blockquote>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387">https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/">https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/</a></p>
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| 24 | 20th December 2023 | 17:22:06 | remus | ascent | John Roberts | notes | |
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Before
### References
[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387](https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387)
[2] [https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/](https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/)
After
> The ballnut placement looked very scarred and possibly damaged in comparison to the week before when I had previously top-roped the route but on the assumption that it was now “bomber” I jumped on and then kicked the gear out as I moved past the crux. [2]
### References
[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387](https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387)
[2] [https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/](https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/)
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| 25 | 20th December 2023 | 17:20:44 | remus | ascent | Ben Bransby | ascent_dt_end | |
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Before
2009-01-01
After
2008-12-07
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| 26 | 20th December 2023 | 17:20:44 | remus | ascent | Ben Bransby | ascent_dt_start | |
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Before
2008-12-01
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2008-12-07
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| 27 | 20th December 2023 | 17:20:32 | remus | ascent | Pete Robins | ascent_dt_start | |
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Before
2008-12-01
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2008-12-07
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| 28 | 20th December 2023 | 17:20:32 | remus | ascent | Pete Robins | ascent_dt_end | |
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Before
2009-01-01
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2008-12-07
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| 29 | 20th December 2023 | 17:17:49 | remus | ascent | John Roberts | notes | |
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Before
[https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387](https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387)
After
### References
[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387](https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387)
[2] [https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/](https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/)
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| 30 | 20th December 2023 | 17:17:49 | remus | ascent | John Roberts | notes_pretty | |
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Before
<p><a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387">https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387</a></p>
After
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387">https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/">https://johnroberts.me/outdoors/2011/11/the-promise-is-it-finally-the-end-of-the-affair/</a></p>
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| 31 | 20th December 2023 | 17:17:09 | remus | ascent | Pete Robins | notes | |
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Before
### References
[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_e10_or_e8-1466](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_e10_or_e8-1466)
[2] [https://vimeo.com/2458024](https://vimeo.com/2458024)
After
### References
[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_e10_or_e8-1466](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_e10_or_e8-1466)
[2] [https://vimeo.com/2458024](https://vimeo.com/2458024)
[3] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_ground_up_-_video-1499](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_ground_up_-_video-1499)
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| 32 | 20th December 2023 | 17:17:09 | remus | ascent | Pete Robins | notes_pretty | |
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Before
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_e10_or_e8-1466">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_e10_or_e8-1466</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://vimeo.com/2458024">https://vimeo.com/2458024</a></p>
After
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_e10_or_e8-1466">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_e10_or_e8-1466</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://vimeo.com/2458024">https://vimeo.com/2458024</a></p>
<p>[3] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_ground_up_-_video-1499">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-<em>ground_up</em>-_video-1499</a></p>
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| 33 | 20th December 2023 | 17:16:55 | remus | ascent | Ben Bransby | notes_pretty | |
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Before
<blockquote>
<p>After our extensive testing of the slider this turned into a pretty safe thing although I think <a href="/climber/155">Pete [Robins]</a> saying E7 is possibly a little low (although it is Pete so what you would expect) Comparing to other E7 7as such as <a href="/climb/906/little-women">Little Women</a> and <a href="/climb/2926/groove-is-in-the-heart">Groove is in the Heart</a> (fell off the last move on wed) it felt very slightly easier, Fb7b+ rather than Fb7c?, but a fair bit bolder - both the above are very safe, lots of runners and short falls, the Promise has one ok runner and a ground sweeping (although quite short!) fall. We only felt happy taking the fall on the Promise after a few 'practice' falls from right by it and with 5 pads and a ladder below (I would have been happy with no or one pad on the sunday). </p>
<p>I think for James' ascent (not trusting the runner, no pads) you could probably add an E grade or two (I am sure with UKB grade SCIENCE we could work out how many exactly). [1]</p>
</blockquote>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg176038.html#msg176038">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg176038.html#msg176038</a></p>
After
<blockquote>
<p>After our extensive testing of the slider this turned into a pretty safe thing although I think <a href="/climber/155">Pete [Robins]</a> saying E7 is possibly a little low (although it is Pete so what you would expect) Comparing to other E7 7as such as <a href="/climb/906/little-women">Little Women</a> and <a href="/climb/2926/groove-is-in-the-heart">Groove is in the Heart</a> (fell off the last move on wed) it felt very slightly easier, Fb7b+ rather than Fb7c?, but a fair bit bolder - both the above are very safe, lots of runners and short falls, the Promise has one ok runner and a ground sweeping (although quite short!) fall. We only felt happy taking the fall on the Promise after a few 'practice' falls from right by it and with 5 pads and a ladder below (I would have been happy with no or one pad on the sunday). </p>
<p>I think for James' ascent (not trusting the runner, no pads) you could probably add an E grade or two (I am sure with UKB grade SCIENCE we could work out how many exactly). [1]</p>
</blockquote>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg176038.html#msg176038">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg176038.html#msg176038</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_ground_up_-_video-1499">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-<em>ground_up</em>-_video-1499</a></p>
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| 34 | 20th December 2023 | 17:16:55 | remus | ascent | Ben Bransby | notes | |
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Before
> After our extensive testing of the slider this turned into a pretty safe thing although I think [Pete [Robins]](/climber/155) saying E7 is possibly a little low (although it is Pete so what you would expect) Comparing to other E7 7as such as [Little Women](/climb/906/little-women) and [Groove is in the Heart](/climb/2926/groove-is-in-the-heart) (fell off the last move on wed) it felt very slightly easier, Fb7b+ rather than Fb7c?, but a fair bit bolder - both the above are very safe, lots of runners and short falls, the Promise has one ok runner and a ground sweeping (although quite short!) fall. We only felt happy taking the fall on the Promise after a few 'practice' falls from right by it and with 5 pads and a ladder below (I would have been happy with no or one pad on the sunday).
> I think for James' ascent (not trusting the runner, no pads) you could probably add an E grade or two (I am sure with UKB grade SCIENCE we could work out how many exactly). [1]
### References
[1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg176038.html#msg176038](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg176038.html#msg176038)
After
> After our extensive testing of the slider this turned into a pretty safe thing although I think [Pete [Robins]](/climber/155) saying E7 is possibly a little low (although it is Pete so what you would expect) Comparing to other E7 7as such as [Little Women](/climb/906/little-women) and [Groove is in the Heart](/climb/2926/groove-is-in-the-heart) (fell off the last move on wed) it felt very slightly easier, Fb7b+ rather than Fb7c?, but a fair bit bolder - both the above are very safe, lots of runners and short falls, the Promise has one ok runner and a ground sweeping (although quite short!) fall. We only felt happy taking the fall on the Promise after a few 'practice' falls from right by it and with 5 pads and a ladder below (I would have been happy with no or one pad on the sunday).
> I think for James' ascent (not trusting the runner, no pads) you could probably add an E grade or two (I am sure with UKB grade SCIENCE we could work out how many exactly). [1]
### References
[1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg176038.html#msg176038](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg176038.html#msg176038)
[2] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_ground_up_-_video-1499](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/the_promise_-_ground_up_-_video-1499)
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| 35 | 20th December 2023 | 17:14:29 | remus | ascent | John Roberts | ascent_type_id | |
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| 36 | 20th December 2023 | 17:14:29 | remus | ascent | John Roberts | climber_id | |
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| 37 | 20th December 2023 | 17:14:29 | remus | ascent | John Roberts | climb_id | |
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| 38 | 20th December 2023 | 17:14:29 | remus | ascent | John Roberts | ascent_style_id | |
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| 39 | 20th December 2023 | 17:14:29 | remus | ascent | John Roberts | notes | |
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Before
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After
[https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387](https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387)
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| 40 | 20th December 2023 | 17:14:29 | remus | ascent | John Roberts | notes_pretty | |
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<p><a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387">https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=103387</a></p>
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