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1 | 18th June 2024 | 19:27:31 | remus | ascent | Mathew Wright | notes_pretty | |
Before
<p>Matt was the first person to successfully use a kneebar on the route, though he commented that he felt it didn't change the grade for him.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I used the knee pad because it’s obvious. When you do the move on it’s own your knee naturally pushes into the roof, so avoiding it is a little silly in my opinion. The knee bar is actually really bad for the right knee, it’s a knee scum as British people would call it! It didn’t take any weight off my arms, it just slows me down when I release the good left hand pinch to give me a little bit more time to stab my fingers into the blind two-finger pocket in the roof. This move is also very bunched for tall people. [2]</p>
</blockquote>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CFxCUI8jHrs/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CFxCUI8jHrs/</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/interviews/mathew-wright-repeats-hubble-ben-moon-masterpiece-raven-tor.html">https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/interviews/mathew-wright-repeats-hubble-ben-moon-masterpiece-raven-tor.html</a></p>
After
<p>Matt was the first person to successfully use a kneebar on the route, though he commented that he felt it didn't change the grade for him.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I used the knee pad because it’s obvious. When you do the move on it’s own your knee naturally pushes into the roof, so avoiding it is a little silly in my opinion. The knee bar is actually really bad for the right knee, it’s a knee scum as British people would call it! It didn’t take any weight off my arms, it just slows me down when I release the good left hand pinch to give me a little bit more time to stab my fingers into the blind two-finger pocket in the roof. This move is also very bunched for tall people. [2]</p>
</blockquote>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CFxCUI8jHrs/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CFxCUI8jHrs/</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/interviews/mathew-wright-repeats-hubble-ben-moon-masterpiece-raven-tor.html">https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/interviews/mathew-wright-repeats-hubble-ben-moon-masterpiece-raven-tor.html</a></p>
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2 | 18th June 2024 | 19:27:31 | remus | ascent | Mathew Wright | notes | |
Before
Matt was the first person to successfully use a kneebar on the route, though he commented that he felt it didn't change the grade for him.
> I used the knee pad because it’s obvious. When you do the move on it’s own your knee naturally pushes into the roof, so avoiding it is a little silly in my opinion. The knee bar is actually really bad for the right knee, it’s a knee scum as British people would call it! It didn’t take any weight off my arms, it just slows me down when I release the good left hand pinch to give me a little bit more time to stab my fingers into the blind two-finger pocket in the roof. This move is also very bunched for tall people. [2]
[1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CFxCUI8jHrs/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CFxCUI8jHrs/)
[2] [https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/interviews/mathew-wright-repeats-hubble-ben-moon-masterpiece-raven-tor.html](https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/interviews/mathew-wright-repeats-hubble-ben-moon-masterpiece-raven-tor.html)
After
Matt was the first person to successfully use a kneebar on the route, though he commented that he felt it didn't change the grade for him.
> I used the knee pad because it’s obvious. When you do the move on it’s own your knee naturally pushes into the roof, so avoiding it is a little silly in my opinion. The knee bar is actually really bad for the right knee, it’s a knee scum as British people would call it! It didn’t take any weight off my arms, it just slows me down when I release the good left hand pinch to give me a little bit more time to stab my fingers into the blind two-finger pocket in the roof. This move is also very bunched for tall people. [2]
### References
[1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CFxCUI8jHrs/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CFxCUI8jHrs/)
[2] [https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/interviews/mathew-wright-repeats-hubble-ben-moon-masterpiece-raven-tor.html](https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/interviews/mathew-wright-repeats-hubble-ben-moon-masterpiece-raven-tor.html)
Diff
--- before
+++ after
@@ -2,6 +2,8 @@
> I used the knee pad because it’s obvious. When you do the move on it’s own your knee naturally pushes into the roof, so avoiding it is a little silly in my opinion. The knee bar is actually really bad for the right knee, it’s a knee scum as British people would call it! It didn’t take any weight off my arms, it just slows me down when I release the good left hand pinch to give me a little bit more time to stab my fingers into the blind two-finger pocket in the roof. This move is also very bunched for tall people. [2]
+### References
+
[1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CFxCUI8jHrs/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CFxCUI8jHrs/)
[2] [https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/interviews/mathew-wright-repeats-hubble-ben-moon-masterpiece-raven-tor.html](https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/interviews/mathew-wright-repeats-hubble-ben-moon-masterpiece-raven-tor.html)
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3 | 18th June 2024 | 19:27:06 | remus | ascent | Pete Dawson | notes | |
Before
[https://vimeo.com/352458505](https://vimeo.com/352458505)
After
### References
[1] [https://vimeo.com/352458505](https://vimeo.com/352458505)
Diff
--- before
+++ after
@@ -1 +1,3 @@
-[https://vimeo.com/352458505](https://vimeo.com/352458505)
+### References
+
+[1] [https://vimeo.com/352458505](https://vimeo.com/352458505)
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4 | 18th June 2024 | 19:27:06 | remus | ascent | Pete Dawson | notes_pretty | |
Before
<p><a href="https://vimeo.com/352458505">https://vimeo.com/352458505</a></p>
After
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://vimeo.com/352458505">https://vimeo.com/352458505</a></p>
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5 | 18th June 2024 | 19:26:58 | remus | ascent | Alex Megos | notes_pretty | |
Before
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHebU6RtG0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHebU6RtG0</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderMegosSportler/photos/a.428895480583768/730615073745139/?type=3">https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderMegosSportler/photos/a.428895480583768/730615073745139/?type=3</a></p>
After
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHebU6RtG0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHebU6RtG0</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderMegosSportler/photos/a.428895480583768/730615073745139/?type=3">https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderMegosSportler/photos/a.428895480583768/730615073745139/?type=3</a></p>
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6 | 18th June 2024 | 19:26:58 | remus | ascent | Alex Megos | notes | |
Before
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHebU6RtG0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHebU6RtG0)
[https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderMegosSportler/photos/a.428895480583768/730615073745139/?type=3](https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderMegosSportler/photos/a.428895480583768/730615073745139/?type=3)
After
### References
[1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHebU6RtG0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHebU6RtG0)
[2] [https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderMegosSportler/photos/a.428895480583768/730615073745139/?type=3](https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderMegosSportler/photos/a.428895480583768/730615073745139/?type=3)
Diff
--- before
+++ after
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
-[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHebU6RtG0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHebU6RtG0)
+### References
-[https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderMegosSportler/photos/a.428895480583768/730615073745139/?type=3](https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderMegosSportler/photos/a.428895480583768/730615073745139/?type=3)
+[1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHebU6RtG0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHebU6RtG0)
+
+[2] [https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderMegosSportler/photos/a.428895480583768/730615073745139/?type=3](https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderMegosSportler/photos/a.428895480583768/730615073745139/?type=3)
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7 | 18th June 2024 | 19:26:38 | remus | ascent | Richard Simpson | notes_pretty | |
Before
<p>In the context of his other claims there is doubt around this ascent, however his belayer <a href="/climber/1086/dan-tounley">Dan Tounley</a> has been contacted (by <a href="/climber/220/chris-doyle">Chris Doyle</a>) and has confirmed the ascent:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Yes, I can confirm Rich done these routes [<a href="/climb/66/liquid-ambar">Liquid Ambar</a>, <a href="/climb/5/hubble">Hubble</a>] as I belayed him.
Makes me laugh that people are doubting him. I tried to log on to U.K Climbing website when I read about the story but unfortunatly my schools sever wouldn't let me (I am in Thailand). Maybe people will stop doubting him now! Maybe he upset someone, I know he can be an arrogant little twat sometimes!!! [1]</p>
</blockquote>
<p><a href="/climber/1098/simon-lee">Simon Lee</a> has separately been in touch with Dan to confirm the ascent.</p>
<p>[1] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16602.msg292046.html#msg292046">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16602.msg292046.html#msg292046</a></p>
After
<p>In the context of his other claims there is doubt around this ascent, however his belayer <a href="/climber/1086/dan-tounley">Dan Tounley</a> has been contacted (by <a href="/climber/220/chris-doyle">Chris Doyle</a>) and has confirmed the ascent:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Yes, I can confirm Rich done these routes [<a href="/climb/66/liquid-ambar">Liquid Ambar</a>, <a href="/climb/5/hubble">Hubble</a>] as I belayed him.
Makes me laugh that people are doubting him. I tried to log on to U.K Climbing website when I read about the story but unfortunatly my schools sever wouldn't let me (I am in Thailand). Maybe people will stop doubting him now! Maybe he upset someone, I know he can be an arrogant little twat sometimes!!! [1]</p>
</blockquote>
<p><a href="/climber/1098/simon-lee">Simon Lee</a> has separately been in touch with Dan to confirm the ascent.</p>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16602.msg292046.html#msg292046">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16602.msg292046.html#msg292046</a></p>
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8 | 18th June 2024 | 19:26:38 | remus | ascent | Richard Simpson | notes | |
Before
In the context of his other claims there is doubt around this ascent, however his belayer [Dan Tounley](/climber/1086/dan-tounley) has been contacted (by [Chris Doyle](/climber/220/chris-doyle)) and has confirmed the ascent:
> Yes, I can confirm Rich done these routes [[Liquid Ambar](/climb/66/liquid-ambar), [Hubble](/climb/5/hubble)] as I belayed him.
Makes me laugh that people are doubting him. I tried to log on to U.K Climbing website when I read about the story but unfortunatly my schools sever wouldn't let me (I am in Thailand). Maybe people will stop doubting him now! Maybe he upset someone, I know he can be an arrogant little twat sometimes!!! [1]
[Simon Lee](/climber/1098/simon-lee) has separately been in touch with Dan to confirm the ascent.
[1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16602.msg292046.html#msg292046](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16602.msg292046.html#msg292046)
After
In the context of his other claims there is doubt around this ascent, however his belayer [Dan Tounley](/climber/1086/dan-tounley) has been contacted (by [Chris Doyle](/climber/220/chris-doyle)) and has confirmed the ascent:
> Yes, I can confirm Rich done these routes [[Liquid Ambar](/climb/66/liquid-ambar), [Hubble](/climb/5/hubble)] as I belayed him.
Makes me laugh that people are doubting him. I tried to log on to U.K Climbing website when I read about the story but unfortunatly my schools sever wouldn't let me (I am in Thailand). Maybe people will stop doubting him now! Maybe he upset someone, I know he can be an arrogant little twat sometimes!!! [1]
[Simon Lee](/climber/1098/simon-lee) has separately been in touch with Dan to confirm the ascent.
### References
[1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16602.msg292046.html#msg292046](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16602.msg292046.html#msg292046)
Diff
--- before
+++ after
@@ -5,4 +5,6 @@
[Simon Lee](/climber/1098/simon-lee) has separately been in touch with Dan to confirm the ascent.
+### References
+
[1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16602.msg292046.html#msg292046](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16602.msg292046.html#msg292046)
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9 | 14th May 2024 | 21:47:16 | remus | - | - | eight_a_nu_url | |
Before
None
After
https://www.8a.nu/crags/sportclimbing/united-kingdom/raven-tor/sectors/unknown-sector/routes/hubble/
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10 | 14th May 2024 | 21:43:14 | remus | - | - | notes_pretty | |
Before
<p>Hubble is a route at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a> in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 <a href="/climber/488/andy-pollitt">Andy Pollitt</a> made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called <a href="/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon">The Whore of Babylon</a> and for which he suggested 8a. <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!</p>
<p>The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.</p>
<p>A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by <a href="/climber/151/mathew-wright">Mathew Wright</a> on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.</p>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A</a></p>
After
<p>Hubble is a route at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a> in the UK's Peak District. <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!</p>
<p>The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.</p>
<p>A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by <a href="/climber/151/mathew-wright">Mathew Wright</a> on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.</p>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A</a></p>
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11 | 14th May 2024 | 21:43:14 | remus | - | - | notes | |
Before
Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) and for which he suggested 8a. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!
The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.
A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by [Mathew Wright](/climber/151/mathew-wright) on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.
### References
[1] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A)
After
Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!
The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.
A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by [Mathew Wright](/climber/151/mathew-wright) on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.
### References
[1] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A)
Diff
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+++ after
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) and for which he suggested 8a. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!
+Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!
The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.
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12 | 14th May 2024 | 21:23:32 | remus | - | - | notes_pretty | |
Before
<p>Hubble is a route at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a> in the UK's Peak District. <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> made the first ascent in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!</p>
<p>The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.</p>
<p>A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by <a href="/climber/151/mathew-wright">Mathew Wright</a> on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.</p>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A</a></p>
After
<p>Hubble is a route at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a> in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 <a href="/climber/488/andy-pollitt">Andy Pollitt</a> made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called <a href="/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon">The Whore of Babylon</a> and for which he suggested 8a. <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!</p>
<p>The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.</p>
<p>A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by <a href="/climber/151/mathew-wright">Mathew Wright</a> on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.</p>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A</a></p>
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13 | 14th May 2024 | 21:23:32 | remus | - | - | notes | |
Before
Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!
The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.
A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by [Mathew Wright](/climber/151/mathew-wright) on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.
### References
[1] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A)
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Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) and for which he suggested 8a. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!
The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.
A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by [Mathew Wright](/climber/151/mathew-wright) on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.
### References
[1] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A)
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-Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!
+Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) and for which he suggested 8a. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!
The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.
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14 | 18th March 2024 | 20:49:38 | remus | ascent | Will Bosi | notes | |
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_mbM1zdI4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_mbM1zdI4)
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### References
[1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_mbM1zdI4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_mbM1zdI4)
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+[1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_mbM1zdI4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_mbM1zdI4)
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15 | 18th March 2024 | 20:49:38 | remus | ascent | Will Bosi | notes_pretty | |
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<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_mbM1zdI4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_mbM1zdI4</a></p>
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<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_mbM1zdI4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_mbM1zdI4</a></p>
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16 | 22nd December 2023 | 17:41:05 | remus | ascent | John Gaskins | ascent_dt_end | |
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18 | 22nd December 2023 | 17:41:05 | remus | ascent | John Gaskins | notes | |
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### References
[1] *On The Edge 120*, page 51.
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19 | 22nd December 2023 | 17:41:05 | remus | ascent | John Gaskins | notes_pretty | |
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<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <em>On The Edge 120</em>, page 51.</p>
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20 | 20th November 2023 | 18:17:30 | remus | ascent | Steve McClure | notes_pretty | |
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<p>Steve's 581st route at 8a or above. [3]</p>
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<p>A real milestone, possibly my biggest achievement in climbing, even bigger perhaps than <a href="/climb/389/overshadow">Overshadow</a>. Hubble is special, it's a massive trophy and a world icon with a real history.</p>
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<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2009/08/steve_mcclure_-_hubble_f8c+-48867">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2009/08/steve_mcclure_-_hubble_f8c+-48867</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cq2CZe_40">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cq2CZe_40</a></p>
<p>[3] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Czt-_eItyVN/">https://www.instagram.com/p/Czt-_eItyVN/</a></p>
<p>[4] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1YbEX5LbR0aS1h2oOnrxaf?rYxlKw">https://open.spotify.com/episode/1YbEX5LbR0aS1h2oOnrxaf?rYxlKw</a></p>
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<p>Steve's 581st route at 8a or above. [3]</p>
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<p>A real milestone, possibly my biggest achievement in climbing, even bigger perhaps than <a href="/climb/389/overshadow">Overshadow</a>. Hubble is special, it's a massive trophy and a world icon with a real history.</p>
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<p>Steve on the successful ascent:</p>
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<p>On the say I did Hubble I totally didn't expect to do it; I so didn't expect to do it that I didn't even have any quickdrawers in at the top! So hanging on a hold half way up I had to get someone to throw up some quickdraws. [4]</p>
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<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2009/08/steve_mcclure_-_hubble_f8c+-48867">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2009/08/steve_mcclure_-_hubble_f8c+-48867</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cq2CZe_40">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cq2CZe_40</a></p>
<p>[3] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Czt-_eItyVN/">https://www.instagram.com/p/Czt-_eItyVN/</a></p>
<p>[4] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1YbEX5LbR0aS1h2oOnrxaf?rYxlKw">https://open.spotify.com/episode/1YbEX5LbR0aS1h2oOnrxaf?rYxlKw</a></p>
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