Change Log for Akira

Overview

Total Changes

23

First Change

9th Feb 2021

Last Change

29th Aug 2024

Log

Date Time User Type Name Attribute
1 29th August 2024 15:35:46 remus - - notes_pretty
Before
<p>Akira is a route with a complicated history and a degree of controversy, largely around the fact that first ascenionist <a href="/climber/497/fred-rouhling">Fred Rouhling</a> suggested a grade of 9b at a time when 9a was the cutting edge and no routes had been proposed at 9a+ (though some routes from the era have subsequently been upgraded to 9a+, for example <a href="/climb/392/mutation">Mutation</a> at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a>). Subsequent ascentionists have suggested 9a is more appropriate. To complicate things even further, the repeat ascentionists chose not use kneebars but did suggest that using them would lower the grade further.</p> <p>Holds may have come and go on the first part of the route:</p> <blockquote> <p>Can confirm via a friend that worked Akira pretty hard that the initial section used to be 8B. His breakdown was 8B to a crap rest on a 3 finger pocket into a second 8B to the lip. He never tried the final rope section (8a?) as he thought it was pointless. [1] [2] [3]</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="/climber/504">Dani Andrada</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>I almost did it [Akira]. I fell at the last move of the boulder crux. I find that section hard for 7C as Bouin and Martinez have now proposed. It's a boulder of about eight moves, which can be 8A or 8A+ in my opinion. I think the proposal of 9a is correct taking into account that they may have made some moves with kneebars as well. I went 7 or 8 days to try it. The place is quite ugly and I had a hard time finding someone to accompany me. The route is in the same style as Ali Hulk in the Cave of Ali Baba, in Rodellar, but the spot is so ugly that it is difficult to motivate oneself to go there. [4]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741</a></p> <p>[4] <a href="https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/">https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/</a></p> <p>[5] <a href="https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions">https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions</a></p> <p>[6] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635</a></p> <p>[7] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/</a></p> <p>[8] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?">https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?</a></p>
After
<p>Akira is a route with a complicated history and a degree of controversy, largely around the fact that first ascenionist <a href="/climber/497/fred-rouhling">Fred Rouhling</a> suggested a grade of 9b at a time when 9a was the cutting edge and no routes had been proposed at 9a+ (though some routes from the era have subsequently been upgraded to 9a+, for example <a href="/climb/392/mutation">Mutation</a> at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a>). Subsequent ascentionists have suggested 9a is more appropriate. To complicate things even further, the repeat ascentionists chose not use kneebars but did suggest that using them would lower the grade further.</p> <p>Holds may have come and go on the first part of the route:</p> <blockquote> <p>Can confirm via a friend that worked Akira pretty hard that the initial section used to be 8B. His breakdown was 8B to a crap rest on a 3 finger pocket into a second 8B to the lip. He never tried the final rope section (8a?) as he thought it was pointless. [1] [2] [3]</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="/climber/504">Dani Andrada</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>I almost did it [Akira]. I fell at the last move of the boulder crux. I find that section hard for 7C as <a href="/climber/496/sébastien-bouin">Bouin</a> and <a href="/climber/498/lucien-martinez">Lucien Martinez</a> have now proposed. It's a boulder of about eight moves, which can be 8A or 8A+ in my opinion. I think the proposal of 9a is correct taking into account that they may have made some moves with kneebars as well. I went 7 or 8 days to try it. The place is quite ugly and I had a hard time finding someone to accompany me. The route is in the same style as Ali Hulk in the Cave of Ali Baba, in <a href="/crag/2913/rodellar">Rodellar</a>, but the spot is so ugly that it is difficult to motivate oneself to go there. [4]</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="/climber/658/jean-baptiste-tribout">Jean-Baptiste Tribout</a>, speaking in 2000:</p> <blockquote> <p>I visited Akira in 1995 it is certainly one of the hardest routes in the world that I have ever seen, and I climbed on it and managed to do a lot of the moves, but I couldn't do the hardest moves. To be able to link up all thes hard moves into one clean ascent is incredibly hard. It's a completely natural route, which is great! The route i also very technical, and scary in a way because it is 3 to 4m off the ground it's difficult to commit to the moves, and with these moves you could fall flat on your back. [9]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741</a></p> <p>[4] <a href="https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/">https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/</a></p> <p>[5] <a href="https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions">https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions</a></p> <p>[6] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635</a></p> <p>[7] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/</a></p> <p>[8] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?">https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?</a></p> <p>[9] <em>On The Edge</em> Issue 102, page 43</p>
2 29th August 2024 15:35:46 remus - - notes
Before
Akira is a route with a complicated history and a degree of controversy, largely around the fact that first ascenionist [Fred Rouhling](/climber/497/fred-rouhling) suggested a grade of 9b at a time when 9a was the cutting edge and no routes had been proposed at 9a+ (though some routes from the era have subsequently been upgraded to 9a+, for example [Mutation](/climb/392/mutation) at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor)). Subsequent ascentionists have suggested 9a is more appropriate. To complicate things even further, the repeat ascentionists chose not use kneebars but did suggest that using them would lower the grade further. Holds may have come and go on the first part of the route: > Can confirm via a friend that worked Akira pretty hard that the initial section used to be 8B. His breakdown was 8B to a crap rest on a 3 finger pocket into a second 8B to the lip. He never tried the final rope section (8a?) as he thought it was pointless. [1] [2] [3] [Dani Andrada](/climber/504): > I almost did it [Akira]. I fell at the last move of the boulder crux. I find that section hard for 7C as Bouin and Martinez have now proposed. It's a boulder of about eight moves, which can be 8A or 8A+ in my opinion. I think the proposal of 9a is correct taking into account that they may have made some moves with kneebars as well. I went 7 or 8 days to try it. The place is quite ugly and I had a hard time finding someone to accompany me. The route is in the same style as Ali Hulk in the Cave of Ali Baba, in Rodellar, but the spot is so ugly that it is difficult to motivate oneself to go there. [4] ### References [1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712) [2] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740) [3] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741) [4] [https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/](https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/) [5] [https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions](https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions) [6] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635) [7] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/) [8] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?)
After
Akira is a route with a complicated history and a degree of controversy, largely around the fact that first ascenionist [Fred Rouhling](/climber/497/fred-rouhling) suggested a grade of 9b at a time when 9a was the cutting edge and no routes had been proposed at 9a+ (though some routes from the era have subsequently been upgraded to 9a+, for example [Mutation](/climb/392/mutation) at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor)). Subsequent ascentionists have suggested 9a is more appropriate. To complicate things even further, the repeat ascentionists chose not use kneebars but did suggest that using them would lower the grade further. Holds may have come and go on the first part of the route: > Can confirm via a friend that worked Akira pretty hard that the initial section used to be 8B. His breakdown was 8B to a crap rest on a 3 finger pocket into a second 8B to the lip. He never tried the final rope section (8a?) as he thought it was pointless. [1] [2] [3] [Dani Andrada](/climber/504): > I almost did it [Akira]. I fell at the last move of the boulder crux. I find that section hard for 7C as [Bouin](/climber/496/sébastien-bouin) and [Lucien Martinez](/climber/498/lucien-martinez) have now proposed. It's a boulder of about eight moves, which can be 8A or 8A+ in my opinion. I think the proposal of 9a is correct taking into account that they may have made some moves with kneebars as well. I went 7 or 8 days to try it. The place is quite ugly and I had a hard time finding someone to accompany me. The route is in the same style as Ali Hulk in the Cave of Ali Baba, in [Rodellar](/crag/2913/rodellar), but the spot is so ugly that it is difficult to motivate oneself to go there. [4] [Jean-Baptiste Tribout](/climber/658/jean-baptiste-tribout), speaking in 2000: > I visited Akira in 1995 it is certainly one of the hardest routes in the world that I have ever seen, and I climbed on it and managed to do a lot of the moves, but I couldn't do the hardest moves. To be able to link up all thes hard moves into one clean ascent is incredibly hard. It's a completely natural route, which is great! The route i also very technical, and scary in a way because it is 3 to 4m off the ground it's difficult to commit to the moves, and with these moves you could fall flat on your back. [9] ### References [1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712) [2] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740) [3] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741) [4] [https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/](https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/) [5] [https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions](https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions) [6] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635) [7] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/) [8] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?) [9] *On The Edge* Issue 102, page 43
Diff
--- before +++ after @@ -6,7 +6,11 @@ [Dani Andrada](/climber/504): -> I almost did it [Akira]. I fell at the last move of the boulder crux. I find that section hard for 7C as Bouin and Martinez have now proposed. It's a boulder of about eight moves, which can be 8A or 8A+ in my opinion. I think the proposal of 9a is correct taking into account that they may have made some moves with kneebars as well. I went 7 or 8 days to try it. The place is quite ugly and I had a hard time finding someone to accompany me. The route is in the same style as Ali Hulk in the Cave of Ali Baba, in Rodellar, but the spot is so ugly that it is difficult to motivate oneself to go there. [4] +> I almost did it [Akira]. I fell at the last move of the boulder crux. I find that section hard for 7C as [Bouin](/climber/496/sébastien-bouin) and [Lucien Martinez](/climber/498/lucien-martinez) have now proposed. It's a boulder of about eight moves, which can be 8A or 8A+ in my opinion. I think the proposal of 9a is correct taking into account that they may have made some moves with kneebars as well. I went 7 or 8 days to try it. The place is quite ugly and I had a hard time finding someone to accompany me. The route is in the same style as Ali Hulk in the Cave of Ali Baba, in [Rodellar](/crag/2913/rodellar), but the spot is so ugly that it is difficult to motivate oneself to go there. [4] + +[Jean-Baptiste Tribout](/climber/658/jean-baptiste-tribout), speaking in 2000: + +> I visited Akira in 1995 it is certainly one of the hardest routes in the world that I have ever seen, and I climbed on it and managed to do a lot of the moves, but I couldn't do the hardest moves. To be able to link up all thes hard moves into one clean ascent is incredibly hard. It's a completely natural route, which is great! The route i also very technical, and scary in a way because it is 3 to 4m off the ground it's difficult to commit to the moves, and with these moves you could fall flat on your back. [9] ### References @@ -24,4 +28,6 @@ [7] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/) -[8] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?) +[8] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?) + +[9] *On The Edge* Issue 102, page 43
3 24th February 2024 20:11:34 remus ascent Joshua Forteau notes
Before
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_1B11jQOiA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_1B11jQOiA)
After
### References [1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_1B11jQOiA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_1B11jQOiA)
Diff
--- before +++ after @@ -1 +1,3 @@ -[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_1B11jQOiA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_1B11jQOiA) +### References + +[1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_1B11jQOiA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_1B11jQOiA)
4 24th February 2024 20:11:34 remus ascent Joshua Forteau notes_pretty
Before
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_1B11jQOiA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_1B11jQOiA</a></p>
After
<h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_1B11jQOiA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_1B11jQOiA</a></p>
5 13th February 2024 08:06:10 remus - - thecrag_url
Before
None
After
https://www.thecrag.com/en/climbing/france/le-perigord/route/14013889
6 13th February 2024 08:05:10 remus ascent Sébastien Bouin ascent_dt_start
Before
2020-11-22
After
2020-11-21
7 13th February 2024 08:05:10 remus ascent Sébastien Bouin ascent_dt_end
Before
2020-11-22
After
2020-11-21
8 13th February 2024 08:04:51 remus - - eight_a_nu_url
Before
None
After
https://www.8a.nu/crags/sportclimbing/france/akira/sectors/akira/routes/akira/
9 13th February 2024 08:04:17 remus ascent Fred Rouhling notes_pretty
Before
<p>Fred suggested 9b (at a time when there were no established 9a+s). A bold move!</p> <p>An ascent (and grade) that caused a lot of controversy at the time.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.climbing.com/people/fred-rouhling/">https://www.climbing.com/people/fred-rouhling/</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSxk71e-2k">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSxk71e-2k</a></p>
After
<p>Fred suggested 9b (at a time when there were no established 9a+s). A bold move!</p> <p>An ascent (and grade) that caused a lot of controversy at the time.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.climbing.com/people/fred-rouhling/">https://www.climbing.com/people/fred-rouhling/</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSxk71e-2k">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSxk71e-2k</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?">https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?</a></p>
10 13th February 2024 08:04:17 remus ascent Fred Rouhling notes
Before
Fred suggested 9b (at a time when there were no established 9a+s). A bold move! An ascent (and grade) that caused a lot of controversy at the time. ### References [1] [https://www.climbing.com/people/fred-rouhling/](https://www.climbing.com/people/fred-rouhling/) [2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSxk71e-2k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSxk71e-2k)
After
Fred suggested 9b (at a time when there were no established 9a+s). A bold move! An ascent (and grade) that caused a lot of controversy at the time. ### References [1] [https://www.climbing.com/people/fred-rouhling/](https://www.climbing.com/people/fred-rouhling/) [2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSxk71e-2k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSxk71e-2k) [3] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?)
Diff
--- before +++ after @@ -6,4 +6,6 @@ [1] [https://www.climbing.com/people/fred-rouhling/](https://www.climbing.com/people/fred-rouhling/) -[2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSxk71e-2k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSxk71e-2k) +[2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSxk71e-2k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSxk71e-2k) + +[3] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?)
11 13th February 2024 08:03:50 remus - - notes_pretty
Before
<p>Akira is a route with a complicated history and a degree of controversy, largely around the fact that first ascenionist <a href="/climber/497/fred-rouhling">Fred Rouhling</a> suggested a grade of 9b at a time when 9a was the cutting edge and no routes had been proposed at 9a+ (though some routes from the era have subsequently been upgraded to 9a+, for example <a href="/climb/392/mutation">Mutation</a> at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a>). Subsequent ascentionists have suggested 9a is more appropriate. To complicate things even further, the repeat ascentionists chose not use kneebars but did suggest that using them would lower the grade further.</p> <p>Holds may have come and go on the first part of the route:</p> <blockquote> <p>Can confirm via a friend that worked Akira pretty hard that the initial section used to be 8B. His breakdown was 8B to a crap rest on a 3 finger pocket into a second 8B to the lip. He never tried the final rope section (8a?) as he thought it was pointless. [1] [2] [3]</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="/climber/504">Dani Andrada</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>I almost did it [Akira]. I fell at the last move of the boulder crux. I find that section hard for 7C as Bouin and Martinez have now proposed. It's a boulder of about eight moves, which can be 8A or 8A+ in my opinion. I think the proposal of 9a is correct taking into account that they may have made some moves with kneebars as well. I went 7 or 8 days to try it. The place is quite ugly and I had a hard time finding someone to accompany me. The route is in the same style as Ali Hulk in the Cave of Ali Baba, in Rodellar, but the spot is so ugly that it is difficult to motivate oneself to go there. [4]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741</a></p> <p>[4] <a href="https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/">https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/</a></p> <p>[5] <a href="https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions">https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions</a></p> <p>[6] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635</a></p> <p>[7] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/</a></p>
After
<p>Akira is a route with a complicated history and a degree of controversy, largely around the fact that first ascenionist <a href="/climber/497/fred-rouhling">Fred Rouhling</a> suggested a grade of 9b at a time when 9a was the cutting edge and no routes had been proposed at 9a+ (though some routes from the era have subsequently been upgraded to 9a+, for example <a href="/climb/392/mutation">Mutation</a> at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a>). Subsequent ascentionists have suggested 9a is more appropriate. To complicate things even further, the repeat ascentionists chose not use kneebars but did suggest that using them would lower the grade further.</p> <p>Holds may have come and go on the first part of the route:</p> <blockquote> <p>Can confirm via a friend that worked Akira pretty hard that the initial section used to be 8B. His breakdown was 8B to a crap rest on a 3 finger pocket into a second 8B to the lip. He never tried the final rope section (8a?) as he thought it was pointless. [1] [2] [3]</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="/climber/504">Dani Andrada</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>I almost did it [Akira]. I fell at the last move of the boulder crux. I find that section hard for 7C as Bouin and Martinez have now proposed. It's a boulder of about eight moves, which can be 8A or 8A+ in my opinion. I think the proposal of 9a is correct taking into account that they may have made some moves with kneebars as well. I went 7 or 8 days to try it. The place is quite ugly and I had a hard time finding someone to accompany me. The route is in the same style as Ali Hulk in the Cave of Ali Baba, in Rodellar, but the spot is so ugly that it is difficult to motivate oneself to go there. [4]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741</a></p> <p>[4] <a href="https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/">https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/</a></p> <p>[5] <a href="https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions">https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions</a></p> <p>[6] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635</a></p> <p>[7] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/</a></p> <p>[8] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?">https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?</a></p>
12 13th February 2024 08:03:50 remus - - notes
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Akira is a route with a complicated history and a degree of controversy, largely around the fact that first ascenionist [Fred Rouhling](/climber/497/fred-rouhling) suggested a grade of 9b at a time when 9a was the cutting edge and no routes had been proposed at 9a+ (though some routes from the era have subsequently been upgraded to 9a+, for example [Mutation](/climb/392/mutation) at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor)). Subsequent ascentionists have suggested 9a is more appropriate. To complicate things even further, the repeat ascentionists chose not use kneebars but did suggest that using them would lower the grade further. Holds may have come and go on the first part of the route: > Can confirm via a friend that worked Akira pretty hard that the initial section used to be 8B. His breakdown was 8B to a crap rest on a 3 finger pocket into a second 8B to the lip. He never tried the final rope section (8a?) as he thought it was pointless. [1] [2] [3] [Dani Andrada](/climber/504): > I almost did it [Akira]. I fell at the last move of the boulder crux. I find that section hard for 7C as Bouin and Martinez have now proposed. It's a boulder of about eight moves, which can be 8A or 8A+ in my opinion. I think the proposal of 9a is correct taking into account that they may have made some moves with kneebars as well. I went 7 or 8 days to try it. The place is quite ugly and I had a hard time finding someone to accompany me. The route is in the same style as Ali Hulk in the Cave of Ali Baba, in Rodellar, but the spot is so ugly that it is difficult to motivate oneself to go there. [4] ### References [1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712) [2] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740) [3] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741) [4] [https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/](https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/) [5] [https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions](https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions) [6] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635) [7] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/)
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Akira is a route with a complicated history and a degree of controversy, largely around the fact that first ascenionist [Fred Rouhling](/climber/497/fred-rouhling) suggested a grade of 9b at a time when 9a was the cutting edge and no routes had been proposed at 9a+ (though some routes from the era have subsequently been upgraded to 9a+, for example [Mutation](/climb/392/mutation) at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor)). Subsequent ascentionists have suggested 9a is more appropriate. To complicate things even further, the repeat ascentionists chose not use kneebars but did suggest that using them would lower the grade further. Holds may have come and go on the first part of the route: > Can confirm via a friend that worked Akira pretty hard that the initial section used to be 8B. His breakdown was 8B to a crap rest on a 3 finger pocket into a second 8B to the lip. He never tried the final rope section (8a?) as he thought it was pointless. [1] [2] [3] [Dani Andrada](/climber/504): > I almost did it [Akira]. I fell at the last move of the boulder crux. I find that section hard for 7C as Bouin and Martinez have now proposed. It's a boulder of about eight moves, which can be 8A or 8A+ in my opinion. I think the proposal of 9a is correct taking into account that they may have made some moves with kneebars as well. I went 7 or 8 days to try it. The place is quite ugly and I had a hard time finding someone to accompany me. The route is in the same style as Ali Hulk in the Cave of Ali Baba, in Rodellar, but the spot is so ugly that it is difficult to motivate oneself to go there. [4] ### References [1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621712.html#msg621712) [2] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621740.html#msg621740) [3] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg621741.html#msg621741) [4] [https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/](https://woguclimbing.com/seb-bouin-lucien-martinez-repiten-akira-opinan-9a/) [5] [https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions](https://www.grimper.com/news-25-ans-apres-akira-enfin-repetee-etions) [6] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635) [7] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/) [8] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?)
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--- before +++ after @@ -22,4 +22,6 @@ [6] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2020/11/fred_rouhlings_akira_repeated_-_twice-72635) -[7] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/) +[7] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CH52khijvz7/) + +[8] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4T8j5taHKyu11HnWMKvxWT?)
13 28th November 2023 05:51:40 remus ascent Sébastien Bouin notes
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb86hS3omuA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb86hS3omuA) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuMxIC6qdp8?t=367](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuMxIC6qdp8?t=367) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hol4h2XiYM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hol4h2XiYM)
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### References [1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb86hS3omuA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb86hS3omuA) [2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuMxIC6qdp8?t=367](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuMxIC6qdp8?t=367) [3] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hol4h2XiYM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hol4h2XiYM)
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--- before +++ after @@ -1,5 +1,7 @@ -[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb86hS3omuA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb86hS3omuA) +### References -[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuMxIC6qdp8?t=367](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuMxIC6qdp8?t=367) +[1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb86hS3omuA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb86hS3omuA) -[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hol4h2XiYM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hol4h2XiYM) +[2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuMxIC6qdp8?t=367](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuMxIC6qdp8?t=367) + +[3] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hol4h2XiYM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hol4h2XiYM)
14 28th November 2023 05:51:40 remus ascent Sébastien Bouin notes_pretty
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<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb86hS3omuA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb86hS3omuA</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuMxIC6qdp8?t=367">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuMxIC6qdp8?t=367</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hol4h2XiYM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hol4h2XiYM</a></p>
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<h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb86hS3omuA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb86hS3omuA</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuMxIC6qdp8?t=367">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuMxIC6qdp8?t=367</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hol4h2XiYM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hol4h2XiYM</a></p>
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