This was in as 8A+ but changed it to 8B because Ned gave it 8B and doesn't seem to be any repeats or suggestions of a different grade. Happy to change back if there is some other info.
I'll drop Jack Pal a message, who's usually pretty clued in on these things.
i asked leo and he said he didnt think so, i have a vague recollection of it breaking. Im not sure.
Never tried waveform, looks a super big move, wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not broke and Ned just did something really hard quickly. It’s a lock off a heel, rare that people can touch his stuff in that style
Sounds like it's unlikely to be easier than the 8B Ned gave it