Change Log for Raven Tor

Overview

Total Changes

171

First Change

22nd Dec 2020

Last Change

7th Apr 2025

Log

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21 24th December 2024 08:29:01 remus - - notes_pretty
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<p>Raven Tor is a crag in the UK's Peak District that is known for it's concentration of hard, crimpy sport climbs. Most famously, it is home to <a href="/climb/5/hubble">Hubble</a>, <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon's</a> desperate route from 1990 which was the first 9a in the world.</p> <p>Slightly more recently, <a href="/climber/129/steve-mcclure">Steve McClure</a> established <a href="/climb/392/mutation">Mutation</a> in 1998 adding the hardest route at the crag. At the time Steve suggested a grade of 9a but it has proven very tricky to repeat with <a href="/climber/132/will-bosi">Will Bosi</a> suggesting the upgrade after taking many sessions to repeat it.</p>
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<p>Raven Tor is a crag in the UK's Peak District that is known for it's concentration of hard, crimpy sport climbs. Most famously it is home to <a href="/climb/5/hubble">Hubble</a>, <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon's</a> desperate route from 1990 which was one of the first 9a sport routes in the world.</p> <p>Slightly more recently, <a href="/climber/129/steve-mcclure">Steve McClure</a> established <a href="/climb/392/mutation">Mutation</a> in 1998 adding the hardest route at the crag. At the time Steve suggested a grade of 9a but it has proven very tricky to repeat with <a href="/climber/132/will-bosi">Will Bosi</a> suggesting the upgrade after taking many sessions to repeat it.</p>
22 24th December 2024 08:29:01 remus - - notes
Before
Raven Tor is a crag in the UK's Peak District that is known for it's concentration of hard, crimpy sport climbs. Most famously, it is home to [Hubble](/climb/5/hubble), [Ben Moon's](/climber/130/ben-moon) desperate route from 1990 which was the first 9a in the world. Slightly more recently, [Steve McClure](/climber/129/steve-mcclure) established [Mutation](/climb/392/mutation) in 1998 adding the hardest route at the crag. At the time Steve suggested a grade of 9a but it has proven very tricky to repeat with [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) suggesting the upgrade after taking many sessions to repeat it.
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Raven Tor is a crag in the UK's Peak District that is known for it's concentration of hard, crimpy sport climbs. Most famously it is home to [Hubble](/climb/5/hubble), [Ben Moon's](/climber/130/ben-moon) desperate route from 1990 which was one of the first 9a sport routes in the world. Slightly more recently, [Steve McClure](/climber/129/steve-mcclure) established [Mutation](/climb/392/mutation) in 1998 adding the hardest route at the crag. At the time Steve suggested a grade of 9a but it has proven very tricky to repeat with [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) suggesting the upgrade after taking many sessions to repeat it.
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-Raven Tor is a crag in the UK's Peak District that is known for it's concentration of hard, crimpy sport climbs. Most famously, it is home to [Hubble](/climb/5/hubble), [Ben Moon's](/climber/130/ben-moon) desperate route from 1990 which was the first 9a in the world.
+Raven Tor is a crag in the UK's Peak District that is known for it's concentration of hard, crimpy sport climbs. Most famously it is home to [Hubble](/climb/5/hubble), [Ben Moon's](/climber/130/ben-moon) desperate route from 1990 which was one of the first 9a sport routes in the world.

Slightly more recently, [Steve McClure](/climber/129/steve-mcclure) established [Mutation](/climb/392/mutation) in 1998 adding the hardest route at the crag. At the time Steve suggested a grade of 9a but it has proven very tricky to repeat with [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) suggesting the upgrade after taking many sessions to repeat it.
23 2nd November 2024 11:38:36 remus climb The Wild South grade
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8C
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8C+
24 2nd November 2024 11:38:36 remus climb The Wild South grade_id
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25 27th October 2024 09:37:41 remus climb Make it Funky thecrag_url
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https://www.thecrag.com/en/climbing/united-kingdom/raven-tor/route/18123355
26 27th October 2024 09:36:39 remus climb Make it Funky eight_a_nu_url
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https://www.8a.nu/crags/sportclimbing/united-kingdom/raven-tor/sectors/unknown-sector/routes/make-it-funky/
27 29th June 2024 07:58:12 remus climb Belly Full of Nachos eight_a_nu_url
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https://www.8a.nu/crags/bouldering/united-kingdom/raven-tor/sectors/cave/routes/belly-full-of-nachos/
28 28th June 2024 22:24:13 remus climb Hajj eight_a_nu_url
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https://www.8a.nu/crags/sportclimbing/united-kingdom/raven-tor/sectors/unknown-sector/routes/hajj/
29 21st June 2024 19:10:53 remus climb Mutation eight_a_nu_url
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https://www.8a.nu/crags/sportclimbing/united-kingdom/raven-tor/sectors/unknown-sector/routes/mutation/
30 14th May 2024 21:49:16 remus climb Brandenburg Gate notes_pretty
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<p>Once an infamous project to the right of <a href="/climb/5/hubble">Hubble</a> at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a>. <a href="/climber/148">John Gaskins</a> claimed to have gotten close after many days of effort but never managed to complete it. <a href="/climber/132/will-bosi">Will Bosi</a> eventually made the first ascent in 2021.</p>
After
<p>Once an infamous project to the right of <a href="/climb/5/hubble">Hubble</a> at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a>. <a href="/climber/488/andy-pollitt">Andy Pollitt</a> climbed it with three points of aid as <a href="/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon">The Whore of Babylon</a> at 8a in 1987, <a href="/climber/148">John Gaskins</a> claimed to have gotten close after many days of effort but never managed to complete it and <a href="/climber/132/will-bosi">Will Bosi</a> eventually made the first ascent in 2021.</p>
31 14th May 2024 21:49:16 remus climb Brandenburg Gate notes
Before
Once an infamous project to the right of [Hubble](/climb/5/hubble) at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor). [John Gaskins](/climber/148) claimed to have gotten close after many days of effort but never managed to complete it. [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) eventually made the first ascent in 2021.
After
Once an infamous project to the right of [Hubble](/climb/5/hubble) at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor). [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) climbed it with three points of aid as [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) at 8a in 1987, [John Gaskins](/climber/148) claimed to have gotten close after many days of effort but never managed to complete it and [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) eventually made the first ascent in 2021.
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-Once an infamous project to the right of [Hubble](/climb/5/hubble) at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor). [John Gaskins](/climber/148) claimed to have gotten close after many days of effort but never managed to complete it. [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) eventually made the first ascent in 2021.
+Once an infamous project to the right of [Hubble](/climb/5/hubble) at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor). [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) climbed it with three points of aid as [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) at 8a in 1987, [John Gaskins](/climber/148) claimed to have gotten close after many days of effort but never managed to complete it and [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) eventually made the first ascent in 2021.
32 14th May 2024 21:47:44 remus climb Brandenburg Gate eight_a_nu_url
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https://www.8a.nu/crags/sportclimbing/united-kingdom/raven-tor/sectors/unknown-sector/routes/brandenburg-gate/
33 14th May 2024 21:47:16 remus climb Hubble eight_a_nu_url
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https://www.8a.nu/crags/sportclimbing/united-kingdom/raven-tor/sectors/unknown-sector/routes/hubble/
34 14th May 2024 21:43:14 remus climb Hubble notes
Before
Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) and for which he suggested 8a. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a! The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem. A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by [Mathew Wright](/climber/151/mathew-wright) on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor. ### References [1] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A)
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Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a! The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem. A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by [Mathew Wright](/climber/151/mathew-wright) on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor. ### References [1] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A)
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-Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) and for which he suggested 8a. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!
+Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!

The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.

35 14th May 2024 21:43:14 remus climb Hubble notes_pretty
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<p>Hubble is a route at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a> in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 <a href="/climber/488/andy-pollitt">Andy Pollitt</a> made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called <a href="/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon">The Whore of Babylon</a> and for which he suggested 8a. <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!</p> <p>The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.</p> <p>A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by <a href="/climber/151/mathew-wright">Mathew Wright</a> on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A</a></p>
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<p>Hubble is a route at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a> in the UK's Peak District. <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!</p> <p>The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.</p> <p>A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by <a href="/climber/151/mathew-wright">Mathew Wright</a> on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A</a></p>
36 14th May 2024 21:23:32 remus climb Hubble notes_pretty
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<p>Hubble is a route at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a> in the UK's Peak District. <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> made the first ascent in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!</p> <p>The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.</p> <p>A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by <a href="/climber/151/mathew-wright">Mathew Wright</a> on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A</a></p>
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<p>Hubble is a route at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a> in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 <a href="/climber/488/andy-pollitt">Andy Pollitt</a> made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called <a href="/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon">The Whore of Babylon</a> and for which he suggested 8a. <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!</p> <p>The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.</p> <p>A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by <a href="/climber/151/mathew-wright">Mathew Wright</a> on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A</a></p>
37 14th May 2024 21:23:32 remus climb Hubble notes
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Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a! The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem. A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by [Mathew Wright](/climber/151/mathew-wright) on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor. ### References [1] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A)
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Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) and for which he suggested 8a. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a! The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem. A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by [Mathew Wright](/climber/151/mathew-wright) on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor. ### References [1] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A)
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-Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!
+Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) and for which he suggested 8a. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!

The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.

38 15th April 2024 16:40:19 remus - - eight_a_nu_url
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39 15th April 2024 16:21:30 remus - - thecrag_url
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40 11th April 2024 20:01:32 remus climb Keen Roof eight_a_nu_url
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https://www.8a.nu/crags/bouldering/united-kingdom/raven-tor/sectors/raven-tor/routes/keen-roof/

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