Change Log for Raven Tor

Overview

Total Changes

158

First Change

22nd Dec 2020

Last Change

1st Jan 2025

Log

Date Time User Type Name Attribute
21 14th May 2024 21:43:14 remus climb Hubble notes
Before
Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) and for which he suggested 8a. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a! The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem. A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by [Mathew Wright](/climber/151/mathew-wright) on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor. ### References [1] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A)
After
Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a! The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem. A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by [Mathew Wright](/climber/151/mathew-wright) on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor. ### References [1] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A)
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--- before +++ after @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) and for which he suggested 8a. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a! +Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a! The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.
22 14th May 2024 21:43:14 remus climb Hubble notes_pretty
Before
<p>Hubble is a route at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a> in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 <a href="/climber/488/andy-pollitt">Andy Pollitt</a> made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called <a href="/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon">The Whore of Babylon</a> and for which he suggested 8a. <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!</p> <p>The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.</p> <p>A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by <a href="/climber/151/mathew-wright">Mathew Wright</a> on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A</a></p>
After
<p>Hubble is a route at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a> in the UK's Peak District. <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!</p> <p>The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.</p> <p>A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by <a href="/climber/151/mathew-wright">Mathew Wright</a> on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A</a></p>
23 14th May 2024 21:23:32 remus climb Hubble notes
Before
Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a! The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem. A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by [Mathew Wright](/climber/151/mathew-wright) on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor. ### References [1] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A)
After
Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) and for which he suggested 8a. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a! The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem. A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by [Mathew Wright](/climber/151/mathew-wright) on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor. ### References [1] [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A)
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--- before +++ after @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a! +Hubble is a route at [Raven Tor](/crag/146/raven-tor) in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 [Andy Pollitt](/climber/488/andy-pollitt) made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called [The Whore of Babylon](/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon) and for which he suggested 8a. [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a! The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.
24 14th May 2024 21:23:32 remus climb Hubble notes_pretty
Before
<p>Hubble is a route at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a> in the UK's Peak District. <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> made the first ascent in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!</p> <p>The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.</p> <p>A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by <a href="/climber/151/mathew-wright">Mathew Wright</a> on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A</a></p>
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<p>Hubble is a route at <a href="/crag/146/raven-tor">Raven Tor</a> in the UK's Peak District. In 1987 <a href="/climber/488/andy-pollitt">Andy Pollitt</a> made a partial ascent of the line, pulling on past the hardest climbing at the bottom, which he called <a href="/climb/726/the-whore-of-babylon">The Whore of Babylon</a> and for which he suggested 8a. <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> made the first ascent of the full line in 1990 suggesting a grade of 8c+, making it the hardest route in the world at the time. It is now considered closer to 9a, making it both the first 8c+ and the first 9a!</p> <p>The route is unusually bouldery and powerful with the meat of the difficulty being a short section on undercuts at the start of the route that is around 8B/+ as a boulder problem. The top of the route is roughly a 7c sport route so shouldn't present any issues for a climber capable of getting through the bottom, though Ben Moon famously fell off the top the first time he managed to climb through the boulder problem.</p> <p>A kneebar on the crux undercut match move was first discovered around 2014 which apparently makes this move slightly easier. It was first successfully used by <a href="/climber/151/mathew-wright">Mathew Wright</a> on his ascent in 2020. This method has now been used on several successful ascents. So far, ascentionists using the kneebar method have suggested it doesn't significantly alter the overall difficulty with leg length being a crucial factor.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Cai72J2Sn9BulGmXw7vYE?si=i-sq4M9RShin62B56rWk8A</a></p>
25 15th April 2024 16:40:19 remus - - eight_a_nu_url
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https://www.8a.nu/crags/sportclimbing/united-kingdom/raven-tor/routes
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26 15th April 2024 16:21:30 remus - - thecrag_url
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https://www.thecrag.com/en/climbing/united-kingdom/raven-tor
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27 11th April 2024 20:01:32 remus climb Keen Roof eight_a_nu_url
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https://www.8a.nu/crags/bouldering/united-kingdom/raven-tor/sectors/raven-tor/routes/keen-roof/
28 5th March 2024 22:04:01 remus climb Sardine notes
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Ron Fawcett's free ascent of this route marked the start of the change of Raven Tor from an aid climbing crag to a free climbing crag. Climbed by Simon Nadin - Ground to Ground in 45 seconds.
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Ron Fawcett's free ascent of this route marked the start of the change of Raven Tor from an aid climbing crag to a free climbing crag.
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--- before +++ after @@ -1,3 +1 @@ -Ron Fawcett's free ascent of this route marked the start of the change of Raven Tor from an aid climbing crag to a free climbing crag. - -Climbed by Simon Nadin - Ground to Ground in 45 seconds. +Ron Fawcett's free ascent of this route marked the start of the change of Raven Tor from an aid climbing crag to a free climbing crag.
29 5th March 2024 22:04:01 remus climb Sardine notes_pretty
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<p>Ron Fawcett's free ascent of this route marked the start of the change of Raven Tor from an aid climbing crag to a free climbing crag.</p> <p>Climbed by Simon Nadin - Ground to Ground in 45 seconds.</p>
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<p>Ron Fawcett's free ascent of this route marked the start of the change of Raven Tor from an aid climbing crag to a free climbing crag.</p>
30 1st March 2024 13:21:35 LeodF climb Sardine notes
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Ron Fawcett's free ascent of this route marked the start of the change of Raven Tor from an aid climbing crag to a free climbing crag.
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Ron Fawcett's free ascent of this route marked the start of the change of Raven Tor from an aid climbing crag to a free climbing crag. Climbed by Simon Nadin - Ground to Ground in 45 seconds.
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--- before +++ after @@ -1 +1,3 @@ -Ron Fawcett's free ascent of this route marked the start of the change of Raven Tor from an aid climbing crag to a free climbing crag. +Ron Fawcett's free ascent of this route marked the start of the change of Raven Tor from an aid climbing crag to a free climbing crag. + +Climbed by Simon Nadin - Ground to Ground in 45 seconds.
31 1st March 2024 13:21:35 LeodF climb Sardine notes_pretty
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<p>Ron Fawcett's free ascent of this route marked the start of the change of Raven Tor from an aid climbing crag to a free climbing crag.</p>
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<p>Ron Fawcett's free ascent of this route marked the start of the change of Raven Tor from an aid climbing crag to a free climbing crag.</p> <p>Climbed by Simon Nadin - Ground to Ground in 45 seconds.</p>
32 29th February 2024 09:12:01 remus climb Fat Lip eight_a_nu_url
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https://www.8a.nu/crags/bouldering/united-kingdom/raven-tor/sectors/raven-tor/routes/fat-lip/
33 25th February 2024 18:42:01 remus climb Chimes of Freedom notes
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Initially the route has a large block underneath the roof which made the now-crux substantially easier. The block departed company with the wall and [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) reclimbed it in it's new state in 1990.
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--- before +++ after @@ -1 +1 @@ - +Initially the route has a large block underneath the roof which made the now-crux substantially easier. The block departed company with the wall and [Ben Moon](/climber/130/ben-moon) reclimbed it in it's new state in 1990.
34 25th February 2024 18:42:01 remus climb Chimes of Freedom notes_pretty
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<p>Initially the route has a large block underneath the roof which made the now-crux substantially easier. The block departed company with the wall and <a href="/climber/130/ben-moon">Ben Moon</a> reclimbed it in it's new state in 1990.</p>
35 25th February 2024 18:40:26 remus climb Chimes of Freedom grade_id
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36 25th February 2024 18:40:26 remus climb Chimes of Freedom ukc_url
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https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/raven_tor_millers_dale-146/chimes_of_freedom-15502
37 25th February 2024 18:40:26 remus climb Chimes of Freedom climb_name
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Chimes of Freedom
38 25th February 2024 18:40:26 remus climb Chimes of Freedom climb_type
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39 24th February 2024 21:22:27 remus climb Evolution eight_a_nu_url
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https://www.8a.nu/crags/sportclimbing/united-kingdom/raven-tor/sectors/unknown-sector/routes/evolution/
40 24th February 2024 20:50:17 remus climb Arabian Nights grade_id
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