| Date | Time | User | Type | Name | Attribute | ||
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| 41 | 20th February 2024 | 07:06:06 | remus | - | - | notes | |
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Before
[Mick Ward](/climber/1140/mick-ward):
> Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2]
### References
[1] [https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond](https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond)
[2] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
After
[Mick Ward](/climber/1140/mick-ward):
> Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2]
### References
[1] [https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond](https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond)
[2] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
[3] [https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064](https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064)
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| 42 | 20th February 2024 | 07:06:06 | remus | - | - | notes_pretty | |
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Before
<p><a href="/climber/1140/mick-ward">Mick Ward</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2]</p>
</blockquote>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond">https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p>
After
<p><a href="/climber/1140/mick-ward">Mick Ward</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2]</p>
</blockquote>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond">https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p>
<p>[3] <a href="https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064">https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064</a></p>
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| 43 | 19th February 2024 | 17:29:41 | remus | ascent | Linden | notes_pretty | |
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Before
<p>With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. <a href="/climber/1141/keith-myhill">Keith Myhill</a> wrote in a letter to <em>Mountain</em>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>To which Drummond replied:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>…Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And <a href="/climb/3137/quietus">Quietus</a> top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey.</p>
</blockquote>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p>
After
<p>With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. <a href="/climber/1141/keith-myhill">Keith Myhill</a> wrote in a letter to <em>Mountain</em>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>To which Drummond replied:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>…Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And <a href="/climb/3137/quietus">Quietus</a> top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Though in a later interview he repented:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I erred and was willing to err. If you are creating something, to a degree you have a right to define the way in which to create and I was willing to chip holds… I was different, in that I was wilful and was prepared to change the rock to suit me because I was at the cutting edge and had a right to blunt it a little. I was wrong.</p>
</blockquote>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p>
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| 44 | 19th February 2024 | 17:29:41 | remus | ascent | Linden | notes | |
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Before
With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. [Keith Myhill](/climber/1141/keith-myhill) wrote in a letter to *Mountain*:
> This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time.
To which Drummond replied:
> …Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And [Quietus](/climb/3137/quietus) top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey.
### References
[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
After
With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. [Keith Myhill](/climber/1141/keith-myhill) wrote in a letter to *Mountain*:
> This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time.
To which Drummond replied:
> …Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And [Quietus](/climb/3137/quietus) top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey.
Though in a later interview he repented:
> I erred and was willing to err. If you are creating something, to a degree you have a right to define the way in which to create and I was willing to chip holds… I was different, in that I was wilful and was prepared to change the rock to suit me because I was at the cutting edge and had a right to blunt it a little. I was wrong.
### References
[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
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| 45 | 19th February 2024 | 17:27:34 | remus | ascent | Linden | notes_pretty | |
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Before
<p>With 2 skyhooks for aid.</p>
After
<p>With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. <a href="/climber/1141/keith-myhill">Keith Myhill</a> wrote in a letter to <em>Mountain</em>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>To which Drummond replied:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>…Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And <a href="/climb/3137/quietus">Quietus</a> top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey.</p>
</blockquote>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p>
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| 46 | 19th February 2024 | 17:27:34 | remus | ascent | Linden | notes | |
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Before
With 2 skyhooks for aid.
After
With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. [Keith Myhill](/climber/1141/keith-myhill) wrote in a letter to *Mountain*:
> This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time.
To which Drummond replied:
> …Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And [Quietus](/climb/3137/quietus) top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey.
### References
[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
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| 47 | 19th February 2024 | 17:23:51 | remus | ascent | Archangel | ascent_style_id | |
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1
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| 48 | 19th February 2024 | 17:23:51 | remus | ascent | Archangel | notes_pretty | |
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Before
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<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p>
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| 49 | 19th February 2024 | 17:23:51 | remus | ascent | Archangel | notes | |
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Before
None
After
### References
[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
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| 50 | 19th February 2024 | 17:19:24 | remus | ascent | A Dream of White Horses | ascent_type_id | |
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5
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| 51 | 19th February 2024 | 17:19:24 | remus | ascent | A Dream of White Horses | ascent_style_id | |
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3
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| 52 | 19th February 2024 | 17:19:24 | remus | ascent | A Dream of White Horses | climber_id | |
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1235
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| 53 | 19th February 2024 | 17:19:24 | remus | ascent | A Dream of White Horses | climb_id | |
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3136
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| 54 | 19th February 2024 | 17:19:24 | remus | ascent | A Dream of White Horses | fa | |
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false
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true
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| 55 | 19th February 2024 | 17:18:17 | remus | ascent | The Strand | climber_id | |
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1235
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| 56 | 19th February 2024 | 17:18:17 | remus | ascent | The Strand | climb_id | |
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Before
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1265
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| 57 | 19th February 2024 | 17:18:17 | remus | ascent | The Strand | fa | |
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Before
false
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true
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| 58 | 19th February 2024 | 17:18:17 | remus | ascent | The Strand | ascent_style_id | |
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Before
None
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7
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| 59 | 19th February 2024 | 17:18:17 | remus | ascent | The Strand | ascent_type_id | |
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None
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1
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| 60 | 19th February 2024 | 17:17:28 | remus | ascent | Great Wall | notes_pretty | |
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Before
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<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p>
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