Change Log for Ed Drummond

Overview

Total Changes

136

First Change

9th Feb 2022

Last Change

22nd Sep 2024

Log

Date Time User Type Name Attribute
21 20th February 2024 07:41:38 remus ascent The Blik climber_id
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1235
22 20th February 2024 07:41:38 remus ascent The Blik climb_id
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3139
23 20th February 2024 07:38:23 remus - - notes_pretty
Before
<p><a href="/climber/1140/mick-ward">Mick Ward</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond">https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064">https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064</a></p> <p>[4] <a href="http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond">http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond</a></p>
After
<p><a href="/climber/1140/mick-ward">Mick Ward</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond">https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064">https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064</a></p> <p>[4] <a href="http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond">http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond</a></p> <p>[5] <a href="https://www.thebmc.co.uk/thats-me-ed-drummond">https://www.thebmc.co.uk/thats-me-ed-drummond</a></p>
24 20th February 2024 07:38:23 remus - - notes
Before
[Mick Ward](/climber/1140/mick-ward): > Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2] ### References [1] [https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond](https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond) [2] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940) [3] [https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064](https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064) [4] [http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond](http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond)
After
[Mick Ward](/climber/1140/mick-ward): > Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2] ### References [1] [https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond](https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond) [2] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940) [3] [https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064](https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064) [4] [http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond](http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond) [5] [https://www.thebmc.co.uk/thats-me-ed-drummond](https://www.thebmc.co.uk/thats-me-ed-drummond)
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--- before +++ after @@ -10,4 +10,6 @@ [3] [https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064](https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064) -[4] [http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond](http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond) +[4] [http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond](http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond) + +[5] [https://www.thebmc.co.uk/thats-me-ed-drummond](https://www.thebmc.co.uk/thats-me-ed-drummond)
25 20th February 2024 07:06:51 remus - - notes
Before
[Mick Ward](/climber/1140/mick-ward): > Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2] ### References [1] [https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond](https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond) [2] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940) [3] [https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064](https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064)
After
[Mick Ward](/climber/1140/mick-ward): > Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2] ### References [1] [https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond](https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond) [2] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940) [3] [https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064](https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064) [4] [http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond](http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond)
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--- before +++ after @@ -8,4 +8,6 @@ [2] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940) -[3] [https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064](https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064) +[3] [https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064](https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064) + +[4] [http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond](http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond)
26 20th February 2024 07:06:51 remus - - notes_pretty
Before
<p><a href="/climber/1140/mick-ward">Mick Ward</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond">https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064">https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064</a></p>
After
<p><a href="/climber/1140/mick-ward">Mick Ward</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond">https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064">https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064</a></p> <p>[4] <a href="http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond">http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3195076/RIP-Edwin-Drummond</a></p>
27 20th February 2024 07:06:06 remus - - notes
Before
[Mick Ward](/climber/1140/mick-ward): > Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2] ### References [1] [https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond](https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond) [2] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
After
[Mick Ward](/climber/1140/mick-ward): > Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2] ### References [1] [https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond](https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond) [2] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940) [3] [https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064](https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064)
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--- before +++ after @@ -6,4 +6,6 @@ [1] [https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond](https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond) -[2] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940) +[2] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940) + +[3] [https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064](https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064)
28 20th February 2024 07:06:06 remus - - notes_pretty
Before
<p><a href="/climber/1140/mick-ward">Mick Ward</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond">https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p>
After
<p><a href="/climber/1140/mick-ward">Mick Ward</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Ed Drummond was probably the most visionary figure in British climbing history. He left a legacy of stunning routes and superb writing. And he had a reputation for having the most complicated, mercurial character imaginable. [2]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond">https://www.thebmc.co.uk/a-dream-of-edwin-drummond</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064">https://www.ukhillwalking.com/forums/rock_talk/rip_ed_drummond-704064</a></p>
29 19th February 2024 17:29:41 remus ascent Linden notes
Before
With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. [Keith Myhill](/climber/1141/keith-myhill) wrote in a letter to *Mountain*: > This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time. To which Drummond replied: > …Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And [Quietus](/climb/3137/quietus) top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey. ### References [1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
After
With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. [Keith Myhill](/climber/1141/keith-myhill) wrote in a letter to *Mountain*: > This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time. To which Drummond replied: > …Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And [Quietus](/climb/3137/quietus) top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey. Though in a later interview he repented: > I erred and was willing to err. If you are creating something, to a degree you have a right to define the way in which to create and I was willing to chip holds… I was different, in that I was wilful and was prepared to change the rock to suit me because I was at the cutting edge and had a right to blunt it a little. I was wrong. ### References [1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
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--- before +++ after @@ -6,6 +6,10 @@ > …Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And [Quietus](/climb/3137/quietus) top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey. +Though in a later interview he repented: + +> I erred and was willing to err. If you are creating something, to a degree you have a right to define the way in which to create and I was willing to chip holds… I was different, in that I was wilful and was prepared to change the rock to suit me because I was at the cutting edge and had a right to blunt it a little. I was wrong. + ### References [1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
30 19th February 2024 17:29:41 remus ascent Linden notes_pretty
Before
<p>With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. <a href="/climber/1141/keith-myhill">Keith Myhill</a> wrote in a letter to <em>Mountain</em>:</p> <blockquote> <p>This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time.</p> </blockquote> <p>To which Drummond replied:</p> <blockquote> <p>…Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And <a href="/climb/3137/quietus">Quietus</a> top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey.</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p>
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<p>With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. <a href="/climber/1141/keith-myhill">Keith Myhill</a> wrote in a letter to <em>Mountain</em>:</p> <blockquote> <p>This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time.</p> </blockquote> <p>To which Drummond replied:</p> <blockquote> <p>…Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And <a href="/climb/3137/quietus">Quietus</a> top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey.</p> </blockquote> <p>Though in a later interview he repented:</p> <blockquote> <p>I erred and was willing to err. If you are creating something, to a degree you have a right to define the way in which to create and I was willing to chip holds… I was different, in that I was wilful and was prepared to change the rock to suit me because I was at the cutting edge and had a right to blunt it a little. I was wrong.</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p>
31 19th February 2024 17:27:34 remus ascent Linden notes_pretty
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<p>With 2 skyhooks for aid.</p>
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<p>With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. <a href="/climber/1141/keith-myhill">Keith Myhill</a> wrote in a letter to <em>Mountain</em>:</p> <blockquote> <p>This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time.</p> </blockquote> <p>To which Drummond replied:</p> <blockquote> <p>…Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And <a href="/climb/3137/quietus">Quietus</a> top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey.</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p>
32 19th February 2024 17:27:34 remus ascent Linden notes
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With 2 skyhooks for aid.
After
With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. [Keith Myhill](/climber/1141/keith-myhill) wrote in a letter to *Mountain*: > This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time. To which Drummond replied: > …Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And [Quietus](/climb/3137/quietus) top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey. ### References [1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
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--- before +++ after @@ -1 +1,11 @@ -With 2 skyhooks for aid. +With 2 skyhooks placed in drilled divots for aid, a source of controversy at the time. [Keith Myhill](/climber/1141/keith-myhill) wrote in a letter to *Mountain*: + +> This event must surely mark the lowest point in gritstone climbing for a very long time. + +To which Drummond replied: + +> …Rome wasn't built in a day, nor Cenotaph ascended by Saint Joseph without a pin here and a pin there. And [Quietus](/climb/3137/quietus) top-roped first. I'm still learning how to learn. Silly Myhill. It isn't your hill. The route is there for you too. Go on – open your legs – let's see what you can do. Balancing on those two impeccable skyhooks should keep you quiet. You might even learn to pray; and not prey. + +### References + +[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
33 19th February 2024 17:23:51 remus ascent Archangel ascent_style_id
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34 19th February 2024 17:23:51 remus ascent Archangel notes
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### References [1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
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--- before +++ after @@ -1 +1,3 @@ - +### References + +[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940)
35 19th February 2024 17:23:51 remus ascent Archangel notes_pretty
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<h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/ed_drummond_1945-2019_-_a_retrospective-11940</a></p>
36 19th February 2024 17:19:24 remus ascent A Dream of White Horses climber_id
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37 19th February 2024 17:19:24 remus ascent A Dream of White Horses fa
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38 19th February 2024 17:19:24 remus ascent A Dream of White Horses climb_id
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