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Total Changes

27

First Change

5th Feb 2022

Last Change

8th Apr 2024

Log

Date Time User Type Name Attribute
1 8th April 2024 08:57:16 remus ascent Andy Earl ascent_dt_end
Before
2004-01-01
After
2003-05-01
2 8th April 2024 08:57:16 remus ascent Andy Earl ascent_dt_start
Before
2003-01-01
After
2003-04-01
3 8th April 2024 08:57:16 remus ascent Andy Earl notes_pretty
Before
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CZm-RF6gIiW/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CZm-RF6gIiW/</a></p>
After
<h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CZm-RF6gIiW/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CZm-RF6gIiW/</a></p>
4 8th April 2024 08:57:16 remus ascent Andy Earl notes
Before
[https://www.instagram.com/p/CZm-RF6gIiW/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZm-RF6gIiW/)
After
### References [1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CZm-RF6gIiW/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZm-RF6gIiW/)
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-[https://www.instagram.com/p/CZm-RF6gIiW/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZm-RF6gIiW/)
+### References
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+[1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CZm-RF6gIiW/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZm-RF6gIiW/)
5 18th March 2024 20:50:24 remus ascent Will Bosi notes_pretty
Before
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BXKjb9tg7IU/">https://www.instagram.com/p/BXKjb9tg7IU/</a></p>
After
<h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BXKjb9tg7IU/">https://www.instagram.com/p/BXKjb9tg7IU/</a></p>
6 18th March 2024 20:50:24 remus ascent Will Bosi notes
Before
[https://www.instagram.com/p/BXKjb9tg7IU/](https://www.instagram.com/p/BXKjb9tg7IU/)
After
### References [1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/BXKjb9tg7IU/](https://www.instagram.com/p/BXKjb9tg7IU/)
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-[https://www.instagram.com/p/BXKjb9tg7IU/](https://www.instagram.com/p/BXKjb9tg7IU/)
+### References
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+[1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/BXKjb9tg7IU/](https://www.instagram.com/p/BXKjb9tg7IU/)
7 12th December 2023 19:04:55 remus ascent Ned Feehally notes
Before
[https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897) [https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s](https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s)
After
### References [1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897) [2] [https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s](https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s)
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-[https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897)
+### References

-[https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s](https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s)
+[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897)
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+[2] [https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s](https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s)
8 12th December 2023 19:04:55 remus ascent Ned Feehally notes_pretty
Before
<p><a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897</a></p> <p><a href="https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s">https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s</a></p>
After
<h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s">https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s</a></p>
9 12th December 2023 19:04:31 remus ascent Franco Cookson notes_pretty
Before
<blockquote> <p>Unlike with the Young, which was a ground up 'in the first degree' (ie no ab), I cheated a bit on this one and went for the ab inspection, as the right wall needed a proper clean and I couldn't be bothered trying to get someone else to clean it (they always clean the wrong bits 😂). I'm glad I did, as it made the top moves more enjoyable and, as I also hadn't watched a video of anyone else doing it for ages, I inadvertently found a better sequence for me, taking the crux hold with my left, rather than right, avoiding some of the overhang and getting to use a load of monos! Happy days! 😁😁😁 Unfortunately the sequence I'd spied on ab didn't work as a foothold broke as soon as I tried it. But with a bit more creativity, one failed attempt at a jump, and some extreme human pyramid brushing, some new beta was found.</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I</a></p>
After
<blockquote> <p>Unlike with <a href="/climb/2618/the-young">The Young</a>, which was a ground up 'in the first degree' (ie no ab), I cheated a bit on this one and went for the ab inspection, as the right wall needed a proper clean and I couldn't be bothered trying to get someone else to clean it (they always clean the wrong bits 😂). I'm glad I did, as it made the top moves more enjoyable and, as I also hadn't watched a video of anyone else doing it for ages, I inadvertently found a better sequence for me, taking the crux hold with my left, rather than right, avoiding some of the overhang and getting to use a load of monos! Happy days! 😁😁😁 Unfortunately the sequence I'd spied on ab didn't work as a foothold broke as soon as I tried it. But with a bit more creativity, one failed attempt at a jump, and some extreme human pyramid brushing, some new beta was found.</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I</a></p>
10 12th December 2023 19:04:31 remus ascent Franco Cookson notes
Before
> Unlike with the Young, which was a ground up 'in the first degree' (ie no ab), I cheated a bit on this one and went for the ab inspection, as the right wall needed a proper clean and I couldn't be bothered trying to get someone else to clean it (they always clean the wrong bits 😂). I'm glad I did, as it made the top moves more enjoyable and, as I also hadn't watched a video of anyone else doing it for ages, I inadvertently found a better sequence for me, taking the crux hold with my left, rather than right, avoiding some of the overhang and getting to use a load of monos! Happy days! 😁😁😁 Unfortunately the sequence I'd spied on ab didn't work as a foothold broke as soon as I tried it. But with a bit more creativity, one failed attempt at a jump, and some extreme human pyramid brushing, some new beta was found. ### References [1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/) [2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I)
After
> Unlike with [The Young](/climb/2618/the-young), which was a ground up 'in the first degree' (ie no ab), I cheated a bit on this one and went for the ab inspection, as the right wall needed a proper clean and I couldn't be bothered trying to get someone else to clean it (they always clean the wrong bits 😂). I'm glad I did, as it made the top moves more enjoyable and, as I also hadn't watched a video of anyone else doing it for ages, I inadvertently found a better sequence for me, taking the crux hold with my left, rather than right, avoiding some of the overhang and getting to use a load of monos! Happy days! 😁😁😁 Unfortunately the sequence I'd spied on ab didn't work as a foothold broke as soon as I tried it. But with a bit more creativity, one failed attempt at a jump, and some extreme human pyramid brushing, some new beta was found. ### References [1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/) [2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I)
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-> Unlike with the Young, which was a ground up 'in the first degree' (ie no ab), I cheated a bit on this one and went for the ab inspection, as the right wall needed a proper clean and I couldn't be bothered trying to get someone else to clean it (they always clean the wrong bits 😂). I'm glad I did, as it made the top moves more enjoyable and, as I also hadn't watched a video of anyone else doing it for ages, I inadvertently found a better sequence for me, taking the crux hold with my left, rather than right, avoiding some of the overhang and getting to use a load of monos! Happy days! 😁😁😁 Unfortunately the sequence I'd spied on ab didn't work as a foothold broke as soon as I tried it. But with a bit more creativity, one failed attempt at a jump, and some extreme human pyramid brushing, some new beta was found.
+> Unlike with [The Young](/climb/2618/the-young), which was a ground up 'in the first degree' (ie no ab), I cheated a bit on this one and went for the ab inspection, as the right wall needed a proper clean and I couldn't be bothered trying to get someone else to clean it (they always clean the wrong bits 😂). I'm glad I did, as it made the top moves more enjoyable and, as I also hadn't watched a video of anyone else doing it for ages, I inadvertently found a better sequence for me, taking the crux hold with my left, rather than right, avoiding some of the overhang and getting to use a load of monos! Happy days! 😁😁😁 Unfortunately the sequence I'd spied on ab didn't work as a foothold broke as soon as I tried it. But with a bit more creativity, one failed attempt at a jump, and some extreme human pyramid brushing, some new beta was found.

### References

11 12th December 2023 19:03:00 remus ascent Dan Varian notes_pretty
Before
<p><a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYWJdX-qhQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYWJdX-qhQ</a></p>
After
<h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYWJdX-qhQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYWJdX-qhQ</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://youtu.be/6Pd6vNv0etg?si=3suTo-_BcE9dNJA5&amp;t=1206">https://youtu.be/6Pd6vNv0etg?si=3suTo-_BcE9dNJA5&amp;t=1206</a></p>
12 12th December 2023 19:03:00 remus ascent Dan Varian notes
Before
[https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYWJdX-qhQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYWJdX-qhQ)
After
### References [1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897) [2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYWJdX-qhQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYWJdX-qhQ) [3] [https://youtu.be/6Pd6vNv0etg?si=3suTo-_BcE9dNJA5&t=1206](https://youtu.be/6Pd6vNv0etg?si=3suTo-_BcE9dNJA5&t=1206)
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-[https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897)
+### References

-[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYWJdX-qhQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYWJdX-qhQ)
+[1] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897)
+
+[2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYWJdX-qhQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYWJdX-qhQ)
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+[3] [https://youtu.be/6Pd6vNv0etg?si=3suTo-_BcE9dNJA5&t=1206](https://youtu.be/6Pd6vNv0etg?si=3suTo-_BcE9dNJA5&t=1206)
13 19th November 2023 16:06:29 remus - - notes_pretty
Before
<p>There is some variation in the line taken by each of the ascenionists so far. <a href="/climber/268/andy-earl">Andy Earl</a> climbed a line very close to the arete, <a href="/climber/255/dan-varian">Dan Varian</a> and <a href="/climber/132/will-bosi">Will Bosi</a> ended up slightly more on the right face at the top and <a href="/climber/570/franco-cookson">Franco Cookson</a> moved on to the right hand face earlier still, avoiding a couple of moves up the prow [1]. Franco amusingly named his variation <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kyloe-in-the-woods_kyloe-in-838/varian_the_librarian-648343">Varian the Librarian</a>.</p> <p>Regarding the grade, <a href="/climber/268/andy-earl">Andy Earl</a> didn't offer a grade and <a href="/climber/985/steve-crowe">Steve Crowe</a> wrote it up for the guidebook as E9 7a. It is now more commonly climbed above a big pile of pads at ~8A.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="/climber/570/franco-cookson">Franco Cookson</a> discusses the controversy around the line on <a href="UKClimbing.com">UKClimbing.com</a>, 9th Feb 2022 <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240</a></p>
After
<p>There is some variation in the line taken by each of the ascenionists so far. <a href="/climber/268/andy-earl">Andy Earl</a> climbed a line very close to the arete, <a href="/climber/255/dan-varian">Dan Varian</a> and <a href="/climber/132/will-bosi">Will Bosi</a> ended up slightly more on the right face at the top and <a href="/climber/570/franco-cookson">Franco Cookson</a> moved on to the right hand face earlier still, avoiding a couple of moves up the prow [1]. Franco amusingly named his variation <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kyloe-in-the-woods_kyloe-in-838/varian_the_librarian-648343">Varian the Librarian</a>.</p> <p>Regarding the grade, <a href="/climber/268/andy-earl">Andy Earl</a> didn't offer a grade and <a href="/climber/985/steve-crowe">Steve Crowe</a> wrote it up for the guidebook as E9 7a. It is now more commonly climbed above a big pile of pads at ~8A.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="/climber/570/franco-cookson">Franco Cookson</a> discusses the controversy around the line on <a href="UKClimbing.com">UKClimbing.com</a>, 9th Feb 2022 <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240</a></p> <p>[2] <em>On The Edge 128</em>, page 18</p>
14 19th November 2023 16:06:29 remus - - notes
Before
There is some variation in the line taken by each of the ascenionists so far. [Andy Earl](/climber/268/andy-earl) climbed a line very close to the arete, [Dan Varian](/climber/255/dan-varian) and [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) ended up slightly more on the right face at the top and [Franco Cookson](/climber/570/franco-cookson) moved on to the right hand face earlier still, avoiding a couple of moves up the prow [1]. Franco amusingly named his variation [Varian the Librarian](https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kyloe-in-the-woods_kyloe-in-838/varian_the_librarian-648343). Regarding the grade, [Andy Earl](/climber/268/andy-earl) didn't offer a grade and [Steve Crowe](/climber/985/steve-crowe) wrote it up for the guidebook as E9 7a. It is now more commonly climbed above a big pile of pads at ~8A. ### References [1] [Franco Cookson](/climber/570/franco-cookson) discusses the controversy around the line on [UKClimbing.com](UKClimbing.com), 9th Feb 2022 [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240)
After
There is some variation in the line taken by each of the ascenionists so far. [Andy Earl](/climber/268/andy-earl) climbed a line very close to the arete, [Dan Varian](/climber/255/dan-varian) and [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) ended up slightly more on the right face at the top and [Franco Cookson](/climber/570/franco-cookson) moved on to the right hand face earlier still, avoiding a couple of moves up the prow [1]. Franco amusingly named his variation [Varian the Librarian](https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kyloe-in-the-woods_kyloe-in-838/varian_the_librarian-648343). Regarding the grade, [Andy Earl](/climber/268/andy-earl) didn't offer a grade and [Steve Crowe](/climber/985/steve-crowe) wrote it up for the guidebook as E9 7a. It is now more commonly climbed above a big pile of pads at ~8A. ### References [1] [Franco Cookson](/climber/570/franco-cookson) discusses the controversy around the line on [UKClimbing.com](UKClimbing.com), 9th Feb 2022 [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240) [2] *On The Edge 128*, page 18
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### References

-[1] [Franco Cookson](/climber/570/franco-cookson) discusses the controversy around the line on [UKClimbing.com](UKClimbing.com), 9th Feb 2022 [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240)
+[1] [Franco Cookson](/climber/570/franco-cookson) discusses the controversy around the line on [UKClimbing.com](UKClimbing.com), 9th Feb 2022 [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240)
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+[2] *On The Edge 128*, page 18
15 19th November 2023 11:41:40 remus ascent Franco Cookson notes
Before
> Unlike with the Young, which was a ground up 'in the first degree' (ie no ab), I cheated a bit on this one and went for the ab inspection, as the right wall needed a proper clean and I couldn't be bothered trying to get someone else to clean it (they always clean the wrong bits 😂). I'm glad I did, as it made the top moves more enjoyable and, as I also hadn't watched a video of anyone else doing it for ages, I inadvertently found a better sequence for me, taking the crux hold with my left, rather than right, avoiding some of the overhang and getting to use a load of monos! Happy days! 😁😁😁 Unfortunately the sequence I'd spied on ab didn't work as a foothold broke as soon as I tried it. But with a bit more creativity, one failed attempt at a jump, and some extreme human pyramid brushing, some new beta was found. [https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I)
After
> Unlike with the Young, which was a ground up 'in the first degree' (ie no ab), I cheated a bit on this one and went for the ab inspection, as the right wall needed a proper clean and I couldn't be bothered trying to get someone else to clean it (they always clean the wrong bits 😂). I'm glad I did, as it made the top moves more enjoyable and, as I also hadn't watched a video of anyone else doing it for ages, I inadvertently found a better sequence for me, taking the crux hold with my left, rather than right, avoiding some of the overhang and getting to use a load of monos! Happy days! 😁😁😁 Unfortunately the sequence I'd spied on ab didn't work as a foothold broke as soon as I tried it. But with a bit more creativity, one failed attempt at a jump, and some extreme human pyramid brushing, some new beta was found. ### References [1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/) [2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I)
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> Unlike with the Young, which was a ground up 'in the first degree' (ie no ab), I cheated a bit on this one and went for the ab inspection, as the right wall needed a proper clean and I couldn't be bothered trying to get someone else to clean it (they always clean the wrong bits 😂). I'm glad I did, as it made the top moves more enjoyable and, as I also hadn't watched a video of anyone else doing it for ages, I inadvertently found a better sequence for me, taking the crux hold with my left, rather than right, avoiding some of the overhang and getting to use a load of monos! Happy days! 😁😁😁 Unfortunately the sequence I'd spied on ab didn't work as a foothold broke as soon as I tried it. But with a bit more creativity, one failed attempt at a jump, and some extreme human pyramid brushing, some new beta was found.

-[https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/)
+### References

-[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I)
+[1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/)
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+[2] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I)
16 19th November 2023 11:41:40 remus ascent Franco Cookson notes_pretty
Before
<blockquote> <p>Unlike with the Young, which was a ground up 'in the first degree' (ie no ab), I cheated a bit on this one and went for the ab inspection, as the right wall needed a proper clean and I couldn't be bothered trying to get someone else to clean it (they always clean the wrong bits 😂). I'm glad I did, as it made the top moves more enjoyable and, as I also hadn't watched a video of anyone else doing it for ages, I inadvertently found a better sequence for me, taking the crux hold with my left, rather than right, avoiding some of the overhang and getting to use a load of monos! Happy days! 😁😁😁 Unfortunately the sequence I'd spied on ab didn't work as a foothold broke as soon as I tried it. But with a bit more creativity, one failed attempt at a jump, and some extreme human pyramid brushing, some new beta was found.</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I</a></p>
After
<blockquote> <p>Unlike with the Young, which was a ground up 'in the first degree' (ie no ab), I cheated a bit on this one and went for the ab inspection, as the right wall needed a proper clean and I couldn't be bothered trying to get someone else to clean it (they always clean the wrong bits 😂). I'm glad I did, as it made the top moves more enjoyable and, as I also hadn't watched a video of anyone else doing it for ages, I inadvertently found a better sequence for me, taking the crux hold with my left, rather than right, avoiding some of the overhang and getting to use a load of monos! Happy days! 😁😁😁 Unfortunately the sequence I'd spied on ab didn't work as a foothold broke as soon as I tried it. But with a bit more creativity, one failed attempt at a jump, and some extreme human pyramid brushing, some new beta was found.</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CZly0-styzY/</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeN-7D4Se4I</a></p>
17 19th November 2023 11:41:14 remus ascent Ned Feehally notes_pretty
Before
<p>Third ascent.</p> <p><a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897</a></p> <p><a href="https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s">https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s</a></p>
After
<p><a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897</a></p> <p><a href="https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s">https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s</a></p>
18 19th November 2023 11:41:14 remus ascent Ned Feehally notes
Before
Third ascent. [https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897) [https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s](https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s)
After
[https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897) [https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s](https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s)
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-Third ascent.
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[https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2011/11/dan_and_ned_-_the_prow_e9_and_black_triage-64897)

[https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s](https://vimeo.com/116871088#t=480s)
19 19th November 2023 11:40:37 remus - - notes
Before
There is some variation in the line taken by each of the ascenionists so far. [Andy Earl](/climber/268/andy-earl) climbed a line very close to the arete, [Dan Varian](/climber/255/dan-varian) and [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) ended up slightly more on the right face at the top and [Franco Cookson](/climber/570/franco-cookson) moved on to the right hand face earlier still avoiding a couple of moves up the prow [1]. Franco amusingly named his variation [Varian the Librarian](https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kyloe-in-the-woods_kyloe-in-838/varian_the_librarian-648343). Regarding the grade, [Andy Earl](/climber/268/andy-earl) didn't offer a grade and [Steve Crowe](/climber/985/steve-crowe) wrote it up for the guidebook as E9 7a. It is now more commonly climbed above a big pile of pads at ~8A. ### References [1] [Franco Cookson](/climber/570/franco-cookson) discusses the controversy around the line on [UKClimbing.com](UKClimbing.com), 9th Feb 2022 [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240)
After
There is some variation in the line taken by each of the ascenionists so far. [Andy Earl](/climber/268/andy-earl) climbed a line very close to the arete, [Dan Varian](/climber/255/dan-varian) and [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) ended up slightly more on the right face at the top and [Franco Cookson](/climber/570/franco-cookson) moved on to the right hand face earlier still, avoiding a couple of moves up the prow [1]. Franco amusingly named his variation [Varian the Librarian](https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kyloe-in-the-woods_kyloe-in-838/varian_the_librarian-648343). Regarding the grade, [Andy Earl](/climber/268/andy-earl) didn't offer a grade and [Steve Crowe](/climber/985/steve-crowe) wrote it up for the guidebook as E9 7a. It is now more commonly climbed above a big pile of pads at ~8A. ### References [1] [Franco Cookson](/climber/570/franco-cookson) discusses the controversy around the line on [UKClimbing.com](UKClimbing.com), 9th Feb 2022 [https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240](https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240)
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-There is some variation in the line taken by each of the ascenionists so far. [Andy Earl](/climber/268/andy-earl) climbed a line very close to the arete, [Dan Varian](/climber/255/dan-varian) and [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) ended up slightly more on the right face at the top and [Franco Cookson](/climber/570/franco-cookson) moved on to the right hand face earlier still avoiding a couple of moves up the prow [1]. Franco amusingly named his variation [Varian the Librarian](https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kyloe-in-the-woods_kyloe-in-838/varian_the_librarian-648343).
+There is some variation in the line taken by each of the ascenionists so far. [Andy Earl](/climber/268/andy-earl) climbed a line very close to the arete, [Dan Varian](/climber/255/dan-varian) and [Will Bosi](/climber/132/will-bosi) ended up slightly more on the right face at the top and [Franco Cookson](/climber/570/franco-cookson) moved on to the right hand face earlier still, avoiding a couple of moves up the prow [1]. Franco amusingly named his variation [Varian the Librarian](https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kyloe-in-the-woods_kyloe-in-838/varian_the_librarian-648343).

Regarding the grade, [Andy Earl](/climber/268/andy-earl) didn't offer a grade and [Steve Crowe](/climber/985/steve-crowe) wrote it up for the guidebook as E9 7a. It is now more commonly climbed above a big pile of pads at ~8A.

20 19th November 2023 11:40:37 remus - - notes_pretty
Before
<p>There is some variation in the line taken by each of the ascenionists so far. <a href="/climber/268/andy-earl">Andy Earl</a> climbed a line very close to the arete, <a href="/climber/255/dan-varian">Dan Varian</a> and <a href="/climber/132/will-bosi">Will Bosi</a> ended up slightly more on the right face at the top and <a href="/climber/570/franco-cookson">Franco Cookson</a> moved on to the right hand face earlier still avoiding a couple of moves up the prow [1]. Franco amusingly named his variation <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kyloe-in-the-woods_kyloe-in-838/varian_the_librarian-648343">Varian the Librarian</a>.</p> <p>Regarding the grade, <a href="/climber/268/andy-earl">Andy Earl</a> didn't offer a grade and <a href="/climber/985/steve-crowe">Steve Crowe</a> wrote it up for the guidebook as E9 7a. It is now more commonly climbed above a big pile of pads at ~8A.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="/climber/570/franco-cookson">Franco Cookson</a> discusses the controversy around the line on <a href="UKClimbing.com">UKClimbing.com</a>, 9th Feb 2022 <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240</a></p>
After
<p>There is some variation in the line taken by each of the ascenionists so far. <a href="/climber/268/andy-earl">Andy Earl</a> climbed a line very close to the arete, <a href="/climber/255/dan-varian">Dan Varian</a> and <a href="/climber/132/will-bosi">Will Bosi</a> ended up slightly more on the right face at the top and <a href="/climber/570/franco-cookson">Franco Cookson</a> moved on to the right hand face earlier still, avoiding a couple of moves up the prow [1]. Franco amusingly named his variation <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/kyloe-in-the-woods_kyloe-in-838/varian_the_librarian-648343">Varian the Librarian</a>.</p> <p>Regarding the grade, <a href="/climber/268/andy-earl">Andy Earl</a> didn't offer a grade and <a href="/climber/985/steve-crowe">Steve Crowe</a> wrote it up for the guidebook as E9 7a. It is now more commonly climbed above a big pile of pads at ~8A.</p> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="/climber/570/franco-cookson">Franco Cookson</a> discusses the controversy around the line on <a href="UKClimbing.com">UKClimbing.com</a>, 9th Feb 2022 <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240">https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/opinions/the_blurry_line_-_when_does_a_sequence_become_a_line-14240</a></p>

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