FA Allen/Bancroft?

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By TdG at 09:00:10 on 19th September 2025.

The guide has the FA as Allen Bancroft 1976

Post #1 by TdG OP at 09:00:10 on 19th September 2025.

The write up in Mountain 43 is fairly clear

At Millstone Edge, Ron Fawcett and Pete Livesey climbed Coventry Street free, grading it XS, and also made early (on sight) repeats of Green Death and Edge Lane.

I wonder whether they did it to the cave, and Allen + Bancroft did the full line?

Post #2 by remus at 21:07:26 on 19th September 2025.

I've only got July/August 1976 of Mountain and unfortunately no mention of it in there.

Post #3 by remus at 21:09:07 on 19th September 2025.

Reading Peak Rock, it sounds like Allen/Bancroft made the FFA of Coventry Street Direct, which is now known as just Coventry Street. So Ron and Pete could still have done the FFA off the indirect and superseded version – whatever that was?

Post #4 by TdG OP at 20:49:16 on 4th October 2025.

Good sleuthing. I wonder what the indirect could have been?

Coventry street

Looking at the topo the obvious candidate feels like it'd be starting up Picadilly Circus then doing the upper section of Coventry street. In theory you could do it the other way round I guess, but there aren't really any easy finishes out of the cave.

Post #5 by remus at 07:39:20 on 5th October 2025.

Or perhaps indirect meant you climbed to the cave then scuttled off left? i.e. missing out the top of the cave entirely.

Post #6 by remus at 07:40:56 on 5th October 2025.

To the cave is e4 6b, maybe that was the original

Post #7 by TdG OP at 09:06:28 on 5th October 2025.

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Post #8 by TdG OP at 09:07:24 on 5th October 2025.

The 1983 BMC guide doesn't do much to clear up the confusion. They credit Allen and Bancroft with the FFA in '75, and describe pretty much the current line except split in to two pitches with a belay in the cave.

Post #9 by remus at 11:06:05 on 5th October 2025.