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By baz9 at 14:53:08 UTC on 12th April 2026.

E grade is a guess, if someone who knows more about big walls wants to check it over that'd be cool.

Post #1 by baz9 OP at 14:53:08 UTC on 12th April 2026.

Also, since it's hard to know who led the hardest pitches on a route like this, should 'Alternate Lead' ascents be excluded from lists like Strongest Trad Climbers and similar?

Post #2 by baz9 OP at 14:54:07 UTC on 12th April 2026.

Also, since it's hard to know who led the hardest pitches on a route like this, should 'Alternate Lead' ascents be excluded from lists like Strongest Trad Climbers and similar?

Yeah multi-pitch routes are already excluded, so if you can find the number of pitches and add that as meta on the climb then it won't show up anymore.

Post #3 by remus at 18:42:09 UTC on 12th April 2026.

Oh just seen you'd written the pitches in the notes so just moved that to meta.

Post #4 by remus at 18:57:35 UTC on 12th April 2026.

ahh perfect cheers

Post #5 by baz9 OP at 19:23:39 UTC on 12th April 2026.

7c+ big wall we've given E7 if not sustained (eg Freerider) or E8 if multiple pitches of the grade or generally more sustained (eg Golden Gate, though perhaps a little generously in this case). Cowboy Direct sounds like it would get E7 if it were on El Cap. How much do you add because it's in the Baltoro? I've gone for E8...

Post #6 by duncancritchley at 20:42:08 UTC on 12th April 2026. Edited at 20:44:34 UTC on 12th April 2026.