If we go with the usual policy then this should stay at 8C+ but I think it's worth considering an exception here because the area is banned, so if it isn't getting ascents we might not get a consencus in the normal way.
Darth grader suggests 8C for The Wheel of Life and 8C (hard) for this.
Total armchair grade maths, but adding a 7C onto an 8B+ doesn't feel like enough to bump it to 8C+.
‘Personal grade’ is usually code for ‘I know I’m overgrading this but…’
Ha, too true!
Could be worth asking some locals about it before it was done. I feel like it’s quite harsh to downgrade a boulder just based on its breakdown like this.
Good shout, I'll try messaging a couple of people who have done the OG version.
Potentially worth asking James himself now the dust has settled on it.