Downgrade?

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By remus at 20:41:30 on 6th November 2025.

Currently this is in at 9a but recent ascentionists seem to have found much better sequences on jams than the sequence used on early ascents. By the grade suggestions a downgrade would not be in line with the style guide https://climbing-history.org/tools/style#terminology-naming-and-grades-grades-choosing-and-changing-grades, but this feels like slightly exceptional circumstances where there's been a significant improvement in beta so it seems like grade suggestions from earlier ascentionists should have less weight.

Post #1 by remus OP at 20:41:30 on 6th November 2025.

Legendary crack wad and notorious sandbagger finds morpho-jam route only very hard. I'd leave it for now!

Post #2 by TdG at 09:07:09 on 7th November 2025.

Ha, point taken!

Post #3 by remus OP at 09:12:03 on 7th November 2025.