Change Log for MaDMAn

Overview

Total Changes

20

First Change

31st Jan 2021

Last Change

22nd Jul 2024

Log

Date Time User Type Name Attribute
1 22nd July 2024 08:51:19 remus ascent Jim Pope notes
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### References [1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/](https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/)
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### References [1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/](https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/) [2] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/156943872@N06/53860590267/in/dateposted/](https://www.flickr.com/photos/156943872@N06/53860590267/in/dateposted/)
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--- before +++ after @@ -1,3 +1,5 @@ ### References -[1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/](https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/) +[1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/](https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/) + +[2] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/156943872@N06/53860590267/in/dateposted/](https://www.flickr.com/photos/156943872@N06/53860590267/in/dateposted/)
2 22nd July 2024 08:51:19 remus ascent Jim Pope notes_pretty
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<h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/">https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/</a></p>
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<h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/">https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/156943872@N06/53860590267/in/dateposted/">https://www.flickr.com/photos/156943872@N06/53860590267/in/dateposted/</a></p>
3 13th June 2024 05:38:11 remus ascent Neil Kershaw notes
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Also added a direct finish. > Thanks chaps! In answer to some of the questions; to best of my knowledge this was the second ascent of MaDMAn, although you never know, it has been nearly twenty years since the FA! From the position Dave is in that picture his original line bridges out into Trident, the neighbouring HVS, and finishes up this. This manoeuvre is still tricky! On the day the very green sidewalls of Trident were pretty gopping too. I found that if instead you did another move up to stand higher (eeek!) on the "ledge" then you could reach round enough to get a bomber rock 12 in the base of the wedged block trident feature after which the HVS is named (although not enough to actually reach any holds / an HVS position!), then just carry straight on up the upper arête from the same spot. Its a balancey position and feels pretty spooky / falloffable to place but it is definitely en route and seemed like a good idea as the route was wet when we arrived and the upper section relies on quite a few pebble footholds and recently de-mossed handholds. Top section probably E6 6b on its own and you could actually do it as a separate route starting up Trident I suppose? Its really excellent climbing. As TB says once you get that gear in the top feels very enjoyable so I doubt it changes the original grade. I see it as an extension to MaDMAn rather than a new route, obviously if Dave Pegg had bothered to take a rope and harness he would have cruised up it I'm sure. [2] ### References [1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU) [2] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692)
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Also added a direct finish. > Thanks chaps! In answer to some of the questions; to best of my knowledge this was the second ascent of MaDMAn, although you never know, it has been nearly twenty years since the FA! From the position Dave is in that picture his original line bridges out into Trident, the neighbouring HVS, and finishes up this. This manoeuvre is still tricky! On the day the very green sidewalls of Trident were pretty gopping too. I found that if instead you did another move up to stand higher (eeek!) on the "ledge" then you could reach round enough to get a bomber rock 12 in the base of the wedged block trident feature after which the HVS is named (although not enough to actually reach any holds / an HVS position!), then just carry straight on up the upper arête from the same spot. Its a balancey position and feels pretty spooky / falloffable to place but it is definitely en route and seemed like a good idea as the route was wet when we arrived and the upper section relies on quite a few pebble footholds and recently de-mossed handholds. Top section probably E6 6b on its own and you could actually do it as a separate route starting up Trident I suppose? Its really excellent climbing. As TB says once you get that gear in the top feels very enjoyable so I doubt it changes the original grade. I see it as an extension to MaDMAn rather than a new route, obviously if Dave Pegg had bothered to take a rope and harness he would have cruised up it I'm sure. [2] ### References [1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU) [2] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692) [3] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2014/04/madman_2nd_ascent_for_nige_kershaw-68872](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2014/04/madman_2nd_ascent_for_nige_kershaw-68872)
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--- before +++ after @@ -6,4 +6,6 @@ [1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU) -[2] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692) +[2] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692) + +[3] [https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2014/04/madman_2nd_ascent_for_nige_kershaw-68872](https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2014/04/madman_2nd_ascent_for_nige_kershaw-68872)
4 13th June 2024 05:38:11 remus ascent Neil Kershaw notes_pretty
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<p>Also added a direct finish.</p> <blockquote> <p>Thanks chaps! In answer to some of the questions; to best of my knowledge this was the second ascent of MaDMAn, although you never know, it has been nearly twenty years since the FA! From the position Dave is in that picture his original line bridges out into Trident, the neighbouring HVS, and finishes up this. This manoeuvre is still tricky! On the day the very green sidewalls of Trident were pretty gopping too. I found that if instead you did another move up to stand higher (eeek!) on the "ledge" then you could reach round enough to get a bomber rock 12 in the base of the wedged block trident feature after which the HVS is named (although not enough to actually reach any holds / an HVS position!), then just carry straight on up the upper arête from the same spot. Its a balancey position and feels pretty spooky / falloffable to place but it is definitely en route and seemed like a good idea as the route was wet when we arrived and the upper section relies on quite a few pebble footholds and recently de-mossed handholds. Top section probably E6 6b on its own and you could actually do it as a separate route starting up Trident I suppose? Its really excellent climbing. As TB says once you get that gear in the top feels very enjoyable so I doubt it changes the original grade. I see it as an extension to MaDMAn rather than a new route, obviously if Dave Pegg had bothered to take a rope and harness he would have cruised up it I'm sure. [2]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692</a></p>
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<p>Also added a direct finish.</p> <blockquote> <p>Thanks chaps! In answer to some of the questions; to best of my knowledge this was the second ascent of MaDMAn, although you never know, it has been nearly twenty years since the FA! From the position Dave is in that picture his original line bridges out into Trident, the neighbouring HVS, and finishes up this. This manoeuvre is still tricky! On the day the very green sidewalls of Trident were pretty gopping too. I found that if instead you did another move up to stand higher (eeek!) on the "ledge" then you could reach round enough to get a bomber rock 12 in the base of the wedged block trident feature after which the HVS is named (although not enough to actually reach any holds / an HVS position!), then just carry straight on up the upper arête from the same spot. Its a balancey position and feels pretty spooky / falloffable to place but it is definitely en route and seemed like a good idea as the route was wet when we arrived and the upper section relies on quite a few pebble footholds and recently de-mossed handholds. Top section probably E6 6b on its own and you could actually do it as a separate route starting up Trident I suppose? Its really excellent climbing. As TB says once you get that gear in the top feels very enjoyable so I doubt it changes the original grade. I see it as an extension to MaDMAn rather than a new route, obviously if Dave Pegg had bothered to take a rope and harness he would have cruised up it I'm sure. [2]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692</a></p> <p>[3] <a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2014/04/madman_2nd_ascent_for_nige_kershaw-68872">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2014/04/madman_2nd_ascent_for_nige_kershaw-68872</a></p>
5 13th June 2024 05:36:50 remus ascent Dave Pegg notes
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[https://www.facebook.com/rockarchivist/photos/a.115413049915581/115414379915448](https://www.facebook.com/rockarchivist/photos/a.115413049915581/115414379915448)
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6 13th June 2024 05:36:50 remus ascent Dave Pegg notes_pretty
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<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rockarchivist/photos/a.115413049915581/115414379915448">https://www.facebook.com/rockarchivist/photos/a.115413049915581/115414379915448</a></p>
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7 9th June 2024 14:15:31 remus ascent Jim Pope notes
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### References [1] [https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/](https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/)
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8 9th June 2024 14:15:31 remus ascent Jim Pope notes_pretty
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<h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/">https://www.instagram.com/p/C79e5hstIAo/</a></p>
9 2nd June 2024 07:51:30 remus ascent Jim Pope ascent_dt_end
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10 2nd June 2024 07:51:30 remus ascent Jim Pope ascent_type_id
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11 2nd June 2024 07:51:30 remus ascent Jim Pope ascent_dt_start
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12 2nd June 2024 07:51:30 remus ascent Jim Pope climber_id
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13 2nd June 2024 07:51:30 remus ascent Jim Pope climb_id
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14 2nd June 2024 07:51:30 remus ascent Jim Pope ascent_style_id
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15 2nd June 2024 07:50:32 remus - - notes_pretty
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<p>Originally given E7, but in the words of the second ascenionist:</p> <blockquote> <p>I'm no good with grades but lets just say its more E8 than E7. In fact its more E8 than most E8's. [1]</p> </blockquote> <p>[1] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442742.html#msg442742">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442742.html#msg442742</a></p>
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<p>Originally given E7, but in the words of the second ascenionist <a href="/climber/569/neil-kershaw">Neil Kershaw</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>I'm no good with grades but lets just say its more E8 than E7. In fact its more E8 than most E8's. [1]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442742.html#msg442742">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442742.html#msg442742</a></p>
16 2nd June 2024 07:50:32 remus - - notes
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Originally given E7, but in the words of the second ascenionist: > I'm no good with grades but lets just say its more E8 than E7. In fact its more E8 than most E8's. [1] [1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442742.html#msg442742](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442742.html#msg442742)
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Originally given E7, but in the words of the second ascenionist [Neil Kershaw](/climber/569/neil-kershaw): > I'm no good with grades but lets just say its more E8 than E7. In fact its more E8 than most E8's. [1] ### References [1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442742.html#msg442742](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442742.html#msg442742)
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--- before +++ after @@ -1,5 +1,7 @@ -Originally given E7, but in the words of the second ascenionist: +Originally given E7, but in the words of the second ascenionist [Neil Kershaw](/climber/569/neil-kershaw): > I'm no good with grades but lets just say its more E8 than E7. In fact its more E8 than most E8's. [1] +### References + [1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442742.html#msg442742](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442742.html#msg442742)
17 21st February 2024 19:29:56 remus ascent Neil Kershaw notes
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Second ascent? Also added a direct finish. > Thanks chaps! In answer to some of the questions; to best of my knowledge this was the second ascent of MaDMAn, although you never know, it has been nearly twenty years since the FA! From the position Dave is in that picture his original line bridges out into Trident, the neighbouring HVS, and finishes up this. This manoeuvre is still tricky! On the day the very green sidewalls of Trident were pretty gopping too. I found that if instead you did another move up to stand higher (eeek!) on the "ledge" then you could reach round enough to get a bomber rock 12 in the base of the wedged block trident feature after which the HVS is named (although not enough to actually reach any holds / an HVS position!), then just carry straight on up the upper arête from the same spot. Its a balancey position and feels pretty spooky / falloffable to place but it is definitely en route and seemed like a good idea as the route was wet when we arrived and the upper section relies on quite a few pebble footholds and recently de-mossed handholds. Top section probably E6 6b on its own and you could actually do it as a separate route starting up Trident I suppose? Its really excellent climbing. As TB says once you get that gear in the top feels very enjoyable so I doubt it changes the original grade. I see it as an extension to MaDMAn rather than a new route, obviously if Dave Pegg had bothered to take a rope and harness he would have cruised up it I'm sure. [1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU) [1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692)
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Also added a direct finish. > Thanks chaps! In answer to some of the questions; to best of my knowledge this was the second ascent of MaDMAn, although you never know, it has been nearly twenty years since the FA! From the position Dave is in that picture his original line bridges out into Trident, the neighbouring HVS, and finishes up this. This manoeuvre is still tricky! On the day the very green sidewalls of Trident were pretty gopping too. I found that if instead you did another move up to stand higher (eeek!) on the "ledge" then you could reach round enough to get a bomber rock 12 in the base of the wedged block trident feature after which the HVS is named (although not enough to actually reach any holds / an HVS position!), then just carry straight on up the upper arête from the same spot. Its a balancey position and feels pretty spooky / falloffable to place but it is definitely en route and seemed like a good idea as the route was wet when we arrived and the upper section relies on quite a few pebble footholds and recently de-mossed handholds. Top section probably E6 6b on its own and you could actually do it as a separate route starting up Trident I suppose? Its really excellent climbing. As TB says once you get that gear in the top feels very enjoyable so I doubt it changes the original grade. I see it as an extension to MaDMAn rather than a new route, obviously if Dave Pegg had bothered to take a rope and harness he would have cruised up it I'm sure. [2] ### References [1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU) [2] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692)
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--- before +++ after @@ -1,7 +1,9 @@ -Second ascent? Also added a direct finish. +Also added a direct finish. -> Thanks chaps! In answer to some of the questions; to best of my knowledge this was the second ascent of MaDMAn, although you never know, it has been nearly twenty years since the FA! From the position Dave is in that picture his original line bridges out into Trident, the neighbouring HVS, and finishes up this. This manoeuvre is still tricky! On the day the very green sidewalls of Trident were pretty gopping too. I found that if instead you did another move up to stand higher (eeek!) on the "ledge" then you could reach round enough to get a bomber rock 12 in the base of the wedged block trident feature after which the HVS is named (although not enough to actually reach any holds / an HVS position!), then just carry straight on up the upper arête from the same spot. Its a balancey position and feels pretty spooky / falloffable to place but it is definitely en route and seemed like a good idea as the route was wet when we arrived and the upper section relies on quite a few pebble footholds and recently de-mossed handholds. Top section probably E6 6b on its own and you could actually do it as a separate route starting up Trident I suppose? Its really excellent climbing. As TB says once you get that gear in the top feels very enjoyable so I doubt it changes the original grade. I see it as an extension to MaDMAn rather than a new route, obviously if Dave Pegg had bothered to take a rope and harness he would have cruised up it I'm sure. [1] +> Thanks chaps! In answer to some of the questions; to best of my knowledge this was the second ascent of MaDMAn, although you never know, it has been nearly twenty years since the FA! From the position Dave is in that picture his original line bridges out into Trident, the neighbouring HVS, and finishes up this. This manoeuvre is still tricky! On the day the very green sidewalls of Trident were pretty gopping too. I found that if instead you did another move up to stand higher (eeek!) on the "ledge" then you could reach round enough to get a bomber rock 12 in the base of the wedged block trident feature after which the HVS is named (although not enough to actually reach any holds / an HVS position!), then just carry straight on up the upper arête from the same spot. Its a balancey position and feels pretty spooky / falloffable to place but it is definitely en route and seemed like a good idea as the route was wet when we arrived and the upper section relies on quite a few pebble footholds and recently de-mossed handholds. Top section probably E6 6b on its own and you could actually do it as a separate route starting up Trident I suppose? Its really excellent climbing. As TB says once you get that gear in the top feels very enjoyable so I doubt it changes the original grade. I see it as an extension to MaDMAn rather than a new route, obviously if Dave Pegg had bothered to take a rope and harness he would have cruised up it I'm sure. [2] -[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU) +### References -[1] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692) +[1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU) + +[2] [https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692](https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692)
18 21st February 2024 19:29:56 remus ascent Neil Kershaw notes_pretty
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<p>Second ascent? Also added a direct finish.</p> <blockquote> <p>Thanks chaps! In answer to some of the questions; to best of my knowledge this was the second ascent of MaDMAn, although you never know, it has been nearly twenty years since the FA! From the position Dave is in that picture his original line bridges out into Trident, the neighbouring HVS, and finishes up this. This manoeuvre is still tricky! On the day the very green sidewalls of Trident were pretty gopping too. I found that if instead you did another move up to stand higher (eeek!) on the "ledge" then you could reach round enough to get a bomber rock 12 in the base of the wedged block trident feature after which the HVS is named (although not enough to actually reach any holds / an HVS position!), then just carry straight on up the upper arête from the same spot. Its a balancey position and feels pretty spooky / falloffable to place but it is definitely en route and seemed like a good idea as the route was wet when we arrived and the upper section relies on quite a few pebble footholds and recently de-mossed handholds. Top section probably E6 6b on its own and you could actually do it as a separate route starting up Trident I suppose? Its really excellent climbing. As TB says once you get that gear in the top feels very enjoyable so I doubt it changes the original grade. I see it as an extension to MaDMAn rather than a new route, obviously if Dave Pegg had bothered to take a rope and harness he would have cruised up it I'm sure. [1]</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU</a></p> <p>[1] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692</a></p>
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<p>Also added a direct finish.</p> <blockquote> <p>Thanks chaps! In answer to some of the questions; to best of my knowledge this was the second ascent of MaDMAn, although you never know, it has been nearly twenty years since the FA! From the position Dave is in that picture his original line bridges out into Trident, the neighbouring HVS, and finishes up this. This manoeuvre is still tricky! On the day the very green sidewalls of Trident were pretty gopping too. I found that if instead you did another move up to stand higher (eeek!) on the "ledge" then you could reach round enough to get a bomber rock 12 in the base of the wedged block trident feature after which the HVS is named (although not enough to actually reach any holds / an HVS position!), then just carry straight on up the upper arête from the same spot. Its a balancey position and feels pretty spooky / falloffable to place but it is definitely en route and seemed like a good idea as the route was wet when we arrived and the upper section relies on quite a few pebble footholds and recently de-mossed handholds. Top section probably E6 6b on its own and you could actually do it as a separate route starting up Trident I suppose? Its really excellent climbing. As TB says once you get that gear in the top feels very enjoyable so I doubt it changes the original grade. I see it as an extension to MaDMAn rather than a new route, obviously if Dave Pegg had bothered to take a rope and harness he would have cruised up it I'm sure. [2]</p> </blockquote> <h3>References</h3> <p>[1] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oFJXVsyvU</a></p> <p>[2] <a href="https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692">https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10607.msg442692.html#msg442692</a></p>
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