| Date | Time | User | Type | Name | Attribute | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 41 | 13th July 2024 | 07:19:46 | remus | - | - | notes | |
|
Before
At the time of the first ascent Dave did not offer a grade but he's later said it could be around E10 [1].
### References
[1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWAzUOvDEI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWAzUOvDEI)
After
*Echo Wall* is a hard trad climb located high on Ben Nevis and established by [Dave MacLeod](/climber/146/dave-macleod) in July 2008. It is an incredibly bold route, featuring climbing around french 8c in a position where you can't afford to fall off.
In training for his ascent, Dave famously soloed [Darwin Dixit](/climb/555/darwin-dixit) 8b+ in [Margalef](/crag/27268/margalef), one of the hardest solos in the world at the time.
At the time of the first ascent Dave did not offer a grade but he's later said it could be around E10 [1].
### References
[1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWAzUOvDEI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWAzUOvDEI)
Diff
--- before
+++ after
@@ -1,3 +1,7 @@
+*Echo Wall* is a hard trad climb located high on Ben Nevis and established by [Dave MacLeod](/climber/146/dave-macleod) in July 2008. It is an incredibly bold route, featuring climbing around french 8c in a position where you can't afford to fall off.
+
+In training for his ascent, Dave famously soloed [Darwin Dixit](/climb/555/darwin-dixit) 8b+ in [Margalef](/crag/27268/margalef), one of the hardest solos in the world at the time.
+
At the time of the first ascent Dave did not offer a grade but he's later said it could be around E10 [1].
### References
|
|||||||
| 42 | 5th March 2024 | 13:36:19 | remus | - | - | notes_pretty | |
|
Before
<p>The hardest trad route in the UK? 8c sport climbing in a really dangerous position.</p>
<p>At the time of the first ascent Dave did not offer a grade but he's later said it could be around E10 [1].</p>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWAzUOvDEI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWAzUOvDEI</a></p>
After
<p>At the time of the first ascent Dave did not offer a grade but he's later said it could be around E10 [1].</p>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWAzUOvDEI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWAzUOvDEI</a></p>
|
|||||||
| 43 | 5th March 2024 | 13:36:19 | remus | - | - | notes | |
|
Before
The hardest trad route in the UK? 8c sport climbing in a really dangerous position.
At the time of the first ascent Dave did not offer a grade but he's later said it could be around E10 [1].
### References
[1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWAzUOvDEI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWAzUOvDEI)
After
At the time of the first ascent Dave did not offer a grade but he's later said it could be around E10 [1].
### References
[1] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWAzUOvDEI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWAzUOvDEI)
Diff
--- before
+++ after
@@ -1,5 +1,3 @@
-The hardest trad route in the UK? 8c sport climbing in a really dangerous position.
-
At the time of the first ascent Dave did not offer a grade but he's later said it could be around E10 [1].
### References
|
|||||||
| 44 | 5th March 2024 | 13:31:42 | remus | ascent | Dave MacLeod | notes | |
|
Before
On the grade:
> Do you see my problem? I am uncomfortable with the feeling of grades advancing too quickly due to overgrading, but on the other hand feel that Echo Wall might well earn a laughable quanta of E points over anything else I’ve done, based on the way the E scale has been used traditionally over the past couple of decades. I just don’t know. [1]
[1] [https://davemacleod.blogspot.com/2008/10/grade-of-echo-wall.html](https://davemacleod.blogspot.com/2008/10/grade-of-echo-wall.html)
[2] [https://www.davemacleod.com/shop/echowall](https://www.davemacleod.com/shop/echowall)
[3] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CjnyVzUIpsl/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CjnyVzUIpsl/)
After
On the grade:
> Do you see my problem? I am uncomfortable with the feeling of grades advancing too quickly due to overgrading, but on the other hand feel that Echo Wall might well earn a laughable quanta of E points over anything else I’ve done, based on the way the E scale has been used traditionally over the past couple of decades. I just don’t know. [1]
### References
[1] [https://davemacleod.blogspot.com/2008/10/grade-of-echo-wall.html](https://davemacleod.blogspot.com/2008/10/grade-of-echo-wall.html)
[2] [https://www.davemacleod.com/shop/echowall](https://www.davemacleod.com/shop/echowall)
[3] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CjnyVzUIpsl/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CjnyVzUIpsl/)
[4] [https://www.instagram.com/p/C4IODTqo8Oh/](https://www.instagram.com/p/C4IODTqo8Oh/)
Diff
--- before
+++ after
@@ -1,9 +1,13 @@
On the grade:
> Do you see my problem? I am uncomfortable with the feeling of grades advancing too quickly due to overgrading, but on the other hand feel that Echo Wall might well earn a laughable quanta of E points over anything else I’ve done, based on the way the E scale has been used traditionally over the past couple of decades. I just don’t know. [1]
+
+### References
[1] [https://davemacleod.blogspot.com/2008/10/grade-of-echo-wall.html](https://davemacleod.blogspot.com/2008/10/grade-of-echo-wall.html)
[2] [https://www.davemacleod.com/shop/echowall](https://www.davemacleod.com/shop/echowall)
-[3] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CjnyVzUIpsl/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CjnyVzUIpsl/)
+[3] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CjnyVzUIpsl/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CjnyVzUIpsl/)
+
+[4] [https://www.instagram.com/p/C4IODTqo8Oh/](https://www.instagram.com/p/C4IODTqo8Oh/)
|
|||||||
| 45 | 5th March 2024 | 13:31:42 | remus | ascent | Dave MacLeod | notes_pretty | |
|
Before
<p>On the grade:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Do you see my problem? I am uncomfortable with the feeling of grades advancing too quickly due to overgrading, but on the other hand feel that Echo Wall might well earn a laughable quanta of E points over anything else I’ve done, based on the way the E scale has been used traditionally over the past couple of decades. I just don’t know. [1]</p>
</blockquote>
<p>[1] <a href="https://davemacleod.blogspot.com/2008/10/grade-of-echo-wall.html">https://davemacleod.blogspot.com/2008/10/grade-of-echo-wall.html</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://www.davemacleod.com/shop/echowall">https://www.davemacleod.com/shop/echowall</a></p>
<p>[3] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CjnyVzUIpsl/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CjnyVzUIpsl/</a></p>
After
<p>On the grade:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Do you see my problem? I am uncomfortable with the feeling of grades advancing too quickly due to overgrading, but on the other hand feel that Echo Wall might well earn a laughable quanta of E points over anything else I’ve done, based on the way the E scale has been used traditionally over the past couple of decades. I just don’t know. [1]</p>
</blockquote>
<h3>References</h3>
<p>[1] <a href="https://davemacleod.blogspot.com/2008/10/grade-of-echo-wall.html">https://davemacleod.blogspot.com/2008/10/grade-of-echo-wall.html</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://www.davemacleod.com/shop/echowall">https://www.davemacleod.com/shop/echowall</a></p>
<p>[3] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CjnyVzUIpsl/">https://www.instagram.com/p/CjnyVzUIpsl/</a></p>
<p>[4] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C4IODTqo8Oh/">https://www.instagram.com/p/C4IODTqo8Oh/</a></p>
|
|||||||
| 46 | 5th March 2024 | 13:31:03 | remus | - | - | grade_approx | |
|
Before
true
After
false
|
|||||||
| 47 | 14th June 2022 | 17:43:46 | remus | - | - | - | |
|
Before
None
After
None
|
|||||||
| 48 | 14th June 2022 | 17:41:28 | remus | - | - | - | |
|
Before
None
After
None
|
|||||||
| 49 | 6th January 2021 | 15:11:32 | remus | - | - | - | |
|
Before
None
After
None
|
|||||||
| 50 | 6th January 2021 | 15:09:23 | remus | - | - | - | |
|
Before
None
After
None
|
|||||||